168 messages in net.php.lists.internalsRe: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4?
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Derick RethansJul 6, 2007 7:32 am 
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Subject:Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4?Actions...
From:David Coallier (dav@php.net)
Date:Jul 6, 2007 9:08:49 am
List:net.php.lists.internals

On 7/6/07, Antony Dovgal <ant@zend.com> wrote:

On 06.07.2007 19:58, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

To me it means in the first place that we can add a canned answer to the bugtracker which would say "PHP4 is not supported anymore, install PHP5" and close all PHP4 only reports.

So no bug-fixes, no releases except for ones fixing critical security problems. And even that should be ceased either in say.. 1 or 2 years.

When was the last time we did a PHP4-only bug fix?

Doesn't matter, we still have many of PHP4-only reports which nobody is going to
look in anyway. Also it wasn't that long ago: - Fixed bug #38798 (OpenSSL init corrected in php5 but not in php4). (Tony)

My fear is that the impact of the no-more-support statement is hurt when we qualify it with the fact that nothing is really changing.

Well, I explained what should change in the first place - no more PHP4 reports. If you're unable to reproduce it with PHP5 - sorry, we can't help you.

I'd be more in favour of a statement that put a final death date on it which means no new releases of any sort. We could still say security-fixes only by the end of the year and then death by 08/08/08 or something like that.

Well the initial question was to drop it but not kill it, if there would be another vote for killing it completely, I am totally 100% for it. 21st century... moving on.

Yup, that's exactly what I said in my e-mail.