32 messages in org.perl.cpan-testers-discussRe: The relation between CPAN Testers...
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Subject:Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)Actions...
From:chromatic (chro@wgz.org)
Date:Sep 5, 2008 11:35:47 am
List:org.perl.cpan-testers-discuss

On Friday 05 September 2008 11:23:07 David E. Wheeler wrote:

And if you have to opt-in, I imagine that would solve the biggest complaint, yes? It's the unsolicited email reports that are annoying, right?

They are annoying, but I'm not sure it's my biggest complaint. There's also the arbitrariness of the upload/debug/revise cycle of trying to please a black box full of testers. I'm not willing to say that this is primarily the fault of CPAN Testers, but it does expose a lot of cracks in the CPAN plumbing.

It's a little bit like trying to have a discussion with someone who's upset but won't tell you why, and you have to guess and hope you don't make things worse before you get a useful answer.

Well, you can upload a dev version to CPAN and the testing bots will test it, I believe. It'd be nice if there was a separate place to upload code to be tested before you actually released it. That'd be very handy indeed.

Even being able to identify from a distribution which CPAN Testers platforms will even try to run tests would help. (Oh dear, this'll get all of those 5.005 boxes running my code.)

I do like how CPANTS lists the original dozen or so Kwalitee metrics and their solutions on the individual distribution Kwalitee pages.

-- c