21 messages in com.mysql.lists.mysqlRE: [ANN] Blue World Announces Lasso ...
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Cathy Cunningham (Blue World Lasso Evangelist)07 Mar 2002 09:33 
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Jonathan Hilgeman07 Mar 2002 11:59 
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John Cichy07 Mar 2002 12:34 
Adam07 Mar 2002 12:43 
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Cathy Cunningham (Blue World Lasso Evangelist)07 Mar 2002 12:57 
Jonathan Hilgeman07 Mar 2002 13:06 
Todd Williamsen07 Mar 2002 13:34 
Kim Kohen07 Mar 2002 14:35 
Jonathan Hilgeman07 Mar 2002 14:45 
Jim Van Heule08 Mar 2002 05:31 
Peter Lovatt09 Mar 2002 01:25 
Jim Van Heule09 Mar 2002 04:31 
Subject:RE: [ANN] Blue World Announces Lasso vs PHP White Paper
From:Jonathan Hilgeman (JHil@ecx.com)
Date:03/07/2002 01:06:52 PM
List:com.mysql.lists.mysql

All we're doing here is providing information on a report that was just

released and answering questions and clarifying mis-perceptions.

Don't you mean "All we're doing here is marketing our product to an e-mail list" ... ?

Sharing information for the betterment of the community is good for us

all.

And the community sharing their money with Blue World is good for Blue World.

I've always believed that the best products and companies are created to satisfy an existing, real demand, not to first create the supply, and then also create artificial, new demand. You really don't see Red Hat or many other UNIX-related systems marketing themselves in magazines a lot (there are SOME ads, but not many), but yet they have so much popularity because those operating systems are good and meet a demand for more stable, faster environments. People come to them, not vice versa. I mean, I've never EVER been hit with an e-mail saying, "Come see what Red Hat Linux can do for you. Buy our packaged CDs in Office Depot!"

Obviously sometimes there's a demand and a product can get released without people realizing that the product can satisfy that demand, and promotion is obviously involved to some degree in everything. But after getting so many REPEATED, negative responses from the list in the past about spam, I'm really surprised that Blue World continues to try and market their product on these lists. It's a "I-Don't-Care-How-Many-People-Get-Annoyed-As-Long-As-I-Get-A-Sale" attitude, and I think it reflects the quality of service that we'd receive if we signed up, because the company is willfully choosing to ignore large amounts of protest to achieve their own success.

Don't you think that if Lasso was a truly incredible product, we'd all be reading more and more messages that say something along the lines of, "Oh - in this case, your best bet would be Lasso..." ??? Yet I rarely see these messages.

Blue World really needs to begin paid marketing in magazines and other forms of media where other commercial products are normally advertised. It would probably closely match your target market (assuming you have done the research to develop an SMP (Strategic Marketing Plan), and you wouldn't tick off everyone on these lists.

- Jonathan "The sql-database-query-mysql Man"