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Subject:Re: Rules for Revolutionaries
From:Sam Ruby (rub@apache.org)
Date:Nov 11, 2002 7:41:28 pm
List:org.apache.community

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

I still disagree. The rules of revolutionaries *MUST* (I repeat *MUST*!!!) protect the identity of the project more than they protect the freedom of innovation of the single developers.

More than anything else, the fact that two different codebases were *released* with the same name at the same time, pissed many people off (myself included) and created a lot of problems in the users.

We covered this at great length with Brian and Roy in the meeting in on 17 Jan 2001. This was covered briefly in the minutes: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/01-01-17-meeting-minutes.html, look for "Brian gave an overview of the FreeBSD release strategies".

What was agreed at the time was that Tomcat 3.0 was the reference implementation of 2.2/1.1, and Tomcat 4.0 was the reference implementation of 2.3/1.2.

Anything beyond this agreement was to be proposed as Tomcat 5.0.

How do you feel about this?

I feel that this advice was followed extremely closely.