| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 8:12 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 8:30 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 8:37 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 9:02 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 20, 1999 9:14 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 9:21 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 9:25 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 20, 1999 9:27 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 20, 1999 9:40 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 20, 1999 10:58 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 21, 1999 5:40 am | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 22, 1999 4:30 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 22, 1999 7:57 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 22, 1999 8:11 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 22, 1999 8:38 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 22, 1999 9:40 pm | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 23, 1999 4:19 am | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 23, 1999 11:30 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 23, 1999 1:22 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 23, 1999 9:06 pm | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 23, 1999 9:49 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 23, 1999 10:47 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 23, 1999 11:33 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 23, 1999 11:46 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 2:03 am | |
| Daniel C. Sobral | Nov 24, 1999 3:19 am | |
| Daniel C. Sobral | Nov 24, 1999 3:51 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 24, 1999 6:03 am | |
| Richard Seaman, Jr. | Nov 24, 1999 6:33 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 10:35 am | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 24, 1999 11:02 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 11:05 am | |
| Anthony Kimball | Nov 24, 1999 11:25 am | |
| Daniel Eischen | Nov 24, 1999 11:28 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 11:41 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 11:47 am | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 11:54 am | |
| Louis A. Mamakos | Nov 24, 1999 11:57 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 24, 1999 12:00 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 12:20 pm | |
| Anthony Kimball | Nov 24, 1999 12:47 pm | |
| Doug Rabson | Nov 24, 1999 2:05 pm | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 24, 1999 2:16 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 2:28 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 24, 1999 2:40 pm | |
| Richard Seaman, Jr. | Nov 24, 1999 3:39 pm | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 24, 1999 9:24 pm | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 24, 1999 10:03 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 25, 1999 1:08 am | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 25, 1999 1:33 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 25, 1999 3:08 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Nov 26, 1999 3:01 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Nov 26, 1999 10:33 am | |
| Doug Rabson | Nov 26, 1999 12:15 pm | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 27, 1999 7:38 pm | |
| Arun Sharma | Nov 27, 1999 8:57 pm | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 28, 1999 8:41 am | |
| Arun Sharma | Nov 28, 1999 10:25 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 28, 1999 5:06 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 8:10 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 29, 1999 8:21 am | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 8:29 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 29, 1999 9:05 am | |
| Matthew Dillon | Nov 29, 1999 9:19 am | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 29, 1999 9:28 am | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 10:29 am | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 29, 1999 11:23 am | |
| Nate Williams | Nov 29, 1999 1:39 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 29, 1999 6:06 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 29, 1999 7:46 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 29, 1999 9:01 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 29, 1999 9:34 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Nov 29, 1999 10:09 pm | |
| Daniel M. Eischen | Nov 30, 1999 4:02 am | |
| Jason Evans | Nov 30, 1999 2:25 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Nov 30, 1999 2:42 pm |
| Subject: | Re: Threads | |
|---|---|---|
| From: | Daniel Eischen (eisc...@vigrid.com) | |
| Date: | Nov 24, 1999 11:28:50 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-arch | |
On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:In this context, what is a task? Something similar to a kernel thread? :If there are N (user-level POSIX) threads in an application, how many :tasks are there?
N. A task is simply an execution context for the scheduler. That's it, nothing special. The scheduler need only know about tasks and doesn't really have to know about meta-data such as (except for the MMU context) data stored in Processes, nor does it really need to know what *kind* of task it is messing with.
Simplicity is the best solution.
:> complicates the code. We can trivially use the existing priority :> scheme to schedule interrupt tasks (threads). : :The kernel doesn't know at what priority the threads run, so how can :it effectively schedule them? : :Dan Eischen
If you have one Task == one Thread, the priority is in the Task structure, so the kernel would know. Obviously the scheduler must know or it can't properly schedule the execution context.
So everytime the UTS wants to run a new thread, it has to make a call to the kernel to tell it what it's current priority is? And the kernel is suppose to be able to handle SCHED_FIFO and SCHED_RR queueing? And the kernel will now if a task holds a critical resource and will be able to avoid priority inversions?
I think we want to avoid having the kernel know too much about each thread. It is something that is more easily handled in the threads library.
Dan Eischen eisc...@vigrid.com
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