thanks guys -- I have all the time in the world, it's just that I am a
bit luckless (and clueless). This DVD is the one that LinuxCertified
made specifically as an 'image' of their own particular configuration
with all its applications, but they also supplied a CD with just the
ubuntu minus the apps. I have emailed them anyway, because it won't take
long to find out ; they usually reply by evening, our time, which is
mid-morning california time.