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4 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.translate-develRe: [Translate-devel] VIrtaal "TM" pl...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Alexander Dupuy | Feb 3, 2009 8:29 am | |
| F Wolff | Feb 3, 2009 10:15 am | |
| Dwayne Bailey | Feb 3, 2009 1:42 pm | |
| Dwayne Bailey | Feb 3, 2009 2:30 pm |
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| Subject: | Re: [Translate-devel] VIrtaal "TM" plugin using Google Translate? | Actions... |
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| From: | Dwayne Bailey (dwa...@translate.org.za) | |
| Date: | Feb 3, 2009 1:42:43 pm | |
| List: | net.sourceforge.lists.translate-devel | |
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 20:15 +0200, F Wolff wrote:
Op Di, 2009-02-03 om 11:29 -0500 skryf Alexander Dupuy:
I just read a post about a Google Translate widget for Betawiki (http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2009/02/google-is-my-friend.html), and it made me wonder whether the new TM plugin architecture for Virtaal could support such a plugin, which appeared to be a translation memory, but actually just shipped the string out to Google for machine translation. Given the presence of a libtranslate machine translation plugin, I would guess that this would be possible, but as the TM stuff in Virtaal 0.3 doesn't seem to work on my Fedora 7 system (backrev GTK+, no SQLite, maybe other issues, I haven't had time to investigate) I don't really know for sure.
@alex
Your wish is already granted :-) The libtranslate backend for "translation memory" already does this, and a bit more. It not only provides the language pairs of Google, but all pairs supported by libtranslate.
The big downside to all of this is that libtranslate seems to be unmaintained, and not well packaged. So this is a call for people to report their wishes for the packaging of libtranslate to their distributions. Anybody willing to take this up at least for Debian?
Although unmaintained its pretty stable. Its packaged on Ubuntu and Fedora, I needed to get some fixes in so that it works with Python's ctypes. Who uses Debian anyway? :)
Apart from Dwayne who wrote the plugin, this definitely works for me on my machine, but was a bit of trouble to build initially. Dwayne also updated the list of supported languages and added a few new providers, such as the Apertium project which supports several language pairs not commonly supported.
So you and Dwayne had the same cool idea :-)
Apart from being a cool idea, I was curious to see how easy it would be to write a TM provider for Virtaal. I wrote two on that weekend. TinyTM and libtranslate. Most of the time was spent fixing a libtranslate bug.
So have fun, it definately works. Whether its really useful is a bigger question.
I hope your setup will soon improve - perhaps we can try on IRC to get things working on your older setup anyway? Would OSX support help you? Virtaal runs for me from a checkout with Imendio's native GTK+ port for OSX. I'm still trying to improve the packaging, though.
Friedel
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