16 messages in org.oasis-open.lists.officeRe: [office] Proposed TC Meeting Agen...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| robe...@us.ibm.com | Jan 16, 2006 8:22 am | |
| Bruce D'Arcus | Jan 16, 2006 8:53 am | |
| David A. Wheeler | Jan 16, 2006 10:23 am | |
| Mary McRae | Jan 16, 2006 10:28 am | |
| robe...@us.ibm.com | Jan 16, 2006 11:49 am | |
| Lars Oppermann | Jan 17, 2006 1:50 am | |
| Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg | Jan 17, 2006 4:52 am | |
| Bruce D'Arcus | Jan 17, 2006 6:15 am | |
| Florian Reuter | Jan 17, 2006 8:05 am | |
| Bruce D'Arcus | Jan 17, 2006 8:58 am | |
| Mary McRae | Jan 17, 2006 5:58 pm | |
| Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg | Jan 18, 2006 2:53 am | |
| Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg | Jan 18, 2006 9:03 am | |
| Bruce D'Arcus | Jan 18, 2006 9:56 am | |
| Michael Brauer | Jan 19, 2006 12:10 am | |
| robe...@us.ibm.com | Jan 19, 2006 11:59 am |
| Subject: | Re: [office] Proposed TC Meeting Agenda Items | |
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| From: | David A. Wheeler (dwhe...@dwheeler.com) | |
| Date: | Jan 16, 2006 10:23:20 am | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.office | |
On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:22 AM, robe...@us.ibm.com wrote:
1) Proposal to create additional Subcommittees ... c) Subcommittee formed to develop and propose further support for Metadata and Spreadsheet Formulas. d) ODF 1.1 draft released with enhanced metadata, spreadsheet formulas, and whatever other new features the TC may propose e) Compliance Subcommittee formed to propose ways to define compliance and recommend and perhaps develop a means to verify compliance of ODF-supporting applications
If you don't mind, I'd like to wait to discuss formulas and how to handle them (including subcommittees, etc.) until AFTER the upcoming Monday meeting. Technically, I'm only an "observer" until after next meeting, yet I'm ESPECIALLY interested in ensuring that spreadsheet formulas are well-defined. I'd prefer to legitimately be part of that discussion :-).
If it's any consolation, formulas aren't standing still anyway. As you know, I'm leading a group ("OpenFormula") that is creating an early draft spec for spreadsheet formulas for OpenDocument. We plan to submit it to a standards body, and I've been having several emails with OASIS management about that very subject. We've made a lot of progress, I think.
Speaking of compliance tests, in the OpenFormula work, we've combined two problems into a solution. Our problems were: (1) How can you define functions well enough to really know what they mean, and (2) how do you get a compliance test? The answer, for us, has been to embed compliance tests into the specification itself. I don't think this would work in the general case, but for spreadsheet formulas, giving specific required answers as part of each definition is turning out to be VERY useful. Instead of dancing over the head of the pin of some terms, the test cases eliminate a VAST number of misunderstandings. They also let us examine what current applications do, quickly.
--- David A. Wheeler