|Amir E. Aharoni||Oct 17, 2011 6:10 am|
|Patrick Durusau||Oct 18, 2011 3:56 am|
|Amir E. Aharoni||Oct 18, 2011 6:58 am|
|Patrick Durusau||Oct 18, 2011 8:10 am|
|Patrick Durusau||Oct 18, 2011 8:32 am|
|John B||Oct 18, 2011 8:56 am|
|Frode Severin Hatlevik||Oct 19, 2011 10:22 am||.odt|
|Amir E. Aharoni||Oct 19, 2011 10:41 am||.html|
|Andreas J. Guelzow||Oct 19, 2011 11:12 am|
|Andreas J. Guelzow||Oct 19, 2011 11:22 am|
|Frode Severin Hatlevik||Oct 19, 2011 12:08 pm|
|Andreas J. Guelzow||Oct 19, 2011 12:29 pm|
|robe...@us.ibm.com||Oct 19, 2011 12:48 pm|
|Amir E. Aharoni||Oct 22, 2011 9:58 am|
|Thorsten Behrens||Oct 23, 2011 3:34 am|
|Caolán McNamara||Oct 24, 2011 3:20 am|
|Subject:||Re: [office-comment] marking directionality of text inside a paragraph|
|From:||Frode Severin Hatlevik (frod...@gmail.com)|
|Date:||Oct 19, 2011 12:08:33 pm|
2011/10/19, Andreas J. Guelzow <andr...@concordia.ab.ca>: <snip />
something). The ordering of punctuation, however, is ambiguous, and without manual settings it is often shown incorrectly. It is reasonably easy in manually-coded HTML, it is not-so-great in MS-Word and it is impossible in OpenDocument (unless i am missing something). I am not familiar with any program that allows to do it with a GUI and without manual coding.
I am still not quite sure why you say it is "impossible in OpenDocument"?
I do not know much about the relationship between what is possible to achieve in OpenOffice.org and what is in the ODF spec. It seems to me, though, from what others are writing in this thread, that the problem with misplaced punctuation in inline RTL text in an LTR paragraph is best sorted in the application layer.
The only thing that needs clarification is wether or not there is native support in ODF for such a paragraph as the one in 'walla.html' as supplied by Amir. If so, this issue is perhaps better sorted with the developers of LibreOffice, possibly at l1...@global.libreoffice.org.
I am not fluent in any RTL languages, but I can help with testing, as I have access to different platforms, such as GNU/Linux, Mac, and Windows 7 64bit.
Isn't what you want easily achievable by the insertion of certain Unicode control characters in the Unicode string stored in the OpenDocument Format file? The question of an interface and so of the visibility of this of course is a question for the consumers and producers of ODF, but that is outside the OpenDocument Format specification.
I note that your previous messages referred to OpenOffice. While there is clearly a relationship between what is possible in OpenOffice and what can be stored in OpenDocument Format, there are clearly many things that are storable in OpenDocument Format (without the use of foreign attributes) that are not supported in OpenOffice.
And I would like to think that anything can be done in OpenDocument by using its extension mechanism (of course that would likely lead to problems with interoperability).
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