7 messages in edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacomspecimens examined lists, again
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Robin PanzaAug 3, 1995 9:24 am 
Peter RauchAug 3, 1995 9:43 am 
Bruce NeillAug 4, 1995 4:06 pm 
Lynn KimseyAug 6, 1995 10:37 am 
Peter RauchAug 6, 1995 11:10 am 
Julian HumphriesAug 7, 1995 9:21 am 
Bruce NeillAug 7, 1995 12:42 pm 
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Subject:specimens examined lists, againActions...
From:Julian Humphries (jm@CORNELL.EDU)
Date:Aug 7, 1995 9:21:47 am
List:edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacom

Somehow biologists always behave as if their problems, in this case tracking specimens, lots of specimens or whatever, are somehow unique. Has it ever occurred to any of you that industry has not only managed but mastered how to track anything from individual widgets to warehouses of stuff. As a result, if you look outside the biological community you may be suprised to find that these problems have already been solved in simple easy to implement ways, usually with software and hardware available off the shelf (so to speak).

Lynne,

Would you be surprised if people had already done this? Um, maybe you would be. I spent lots of time tracking down "industry solutions." Lets see, have you ever seen barcodes on single screws or transistors? How about inside jars of pickles? Guess what, most of the barcode solutions are for box size, dry, replicably shaped "things". Sure, they make specialized solutions: for a cost. For two years I subscribed to a magazine: ID Systems, looking for reasonable bar code solutions for specimen jars and small material. For the most part, they simply don't exist. The paper is wrong, the ink is wrong, the market is geared toward a different kind of operation.

The same could be said of any kind of database needs. It is sheer arrogance to assume that somehow our problems are unqiue and that only we can solve them. I might add that an enormous amount of federal funds have been wasted because of this attitude.

Who is "we"? Do you think that somebody else can write functional specifications for loan and tranaction management for biological collections? Do you think somebody else will? Have you actually looked at the only close model that we might adopt from an industry similar to ours (libraries)? Or do you think we somehow are in the pet food industry or whatever? Where are we going to buy off the shelf solutions? (Don't give me the old saw about Paradox or dbase, those aren't applications, they are development environments). Can you name somebody else we can get our solutions from?