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| Monica J. Martin | Jun 14, 2004 10:50 pm | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 7:26 am | |
| Monica J. Martin | Jun 15, 2004 8:05 am | |
| mart...@bt.com | Jun 15, 2004 8:31 am | |
| Jean-Jacques Dubray | Jun 15, 2004 8:38 am | |
| Yunker, John | Jun 15, 2004 9:06 am | |
| Jean-Jacques Dubray | Jun 15, 2004 10:00 am | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 10:07 am | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 10:10 am | |
| Yunker, John | Jun 15, 2004 10:11 am | |
| Yunker, John | Jun 15, 2004 10:18 am | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 10:19 am | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 10:24 am | |
| Monica J. Martin | Jun 15, 2004 10:30 am | |
| Monica J. Martin | Jun 15, 2004 10:33 am | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 10:55 am | |
| Jean-Jacques Dubray | Jun 15, 2004 11:16 am | |
| Hima...@sybase.com | Jun 15, 2004 11:20 am | |
| Jean-Jacques Dubray | Jun 15, 2004 11:38 am | |
| Jean-Jacques Dubray | Jun 15, 2004 11:51 am | |
| Yunker, John | Jun 15, 2004 11:51 am | |
| Yunker, John | Jun 15, 2004 11:54 am | |
| Yunker, John | Jun 15, 2004 11:59 am | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 12:34 pm | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 12:43 pm | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 12:43 pm | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 1:01 pm | |
| Hima...@sybase.com | Jun 15, 2004 1:50 pm | |
| David RR Webber | Jun 15, 2004 6:17 pm | |
| Monica J. Martin | Jun 16, 2004 7:51 am |
| Subject: | Re: [ebxml-bp] [ebBP] Tell 6/14/2004: Business Contract Requirementsfor State Alignment | |
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| From: | Monica J. Martin (Moni...@Sun.COM) | |
| Date: | Jun 15, 2004 10:30:06 am | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.ebxml-bp | |
Yunker: Close, but not quite...The beginsWhen expression can be used as both /*linking to */a semantic state (e.g. begins when "state" of "product-delivered" is reached) *-and- *as a */semantic definition/* that can be used to define that state (e.g. "in the context of this BPSS, "product-delivered" is defined as the existance of both product-delivered-date and delivery-signature")
This */could/* be implemented as either:
1) a filter: the BPSS layer can reject an attempt by the backend integration to start an illegal transaction (and notify of course - up to the implementation in any case) 2) a subscription: the BPSS implementation could link into and use one of those new-fangled semantic-information-maping tools to subscribe to changes in the local implementation of product-delivered-date and delivery-signature.
The important thing is that the BUSINESS COMMUNITY was able to define the semantic business-event controlling the process, so us technology focuessed yahoos would not loose site of our objective. If someone implements a way to use it in an automated fashion, then that's cool -> regardless of whether they are using it for monitoring or execution.
mm1: We've made some progress on the discussion as well as address Work Item 21 (pre- post conditions). It appears we can ensure we understand the business criteria for state alignment and how that relates to beginsWhen and ends When AND pre-post conditions. I think we can address these items in tandem. Perhaps Anders can review these comments this week or on Friday. Keep those cards and letters coming. Thanks.





