54 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-currentRe: RFC: Project geom-events| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 4, 2011 11:04 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 4, 2011 11:08 am | |
| Freddie Cash | Oct 4, 2011 11:12 am | |
| Alexander Motin | Oct 4, 2011 11:28 am | |
| Garrett Cooper | Oct 4, 2011 12:14 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 4, 2011 1:11 pm | |
| Freddie Cash | Oct 4, 2011 1:16 pm | |
| Miroslav Lachman | Oct 4, 2011 2:26 pm | |
| Alexander Motin | Oct 4, 2011 2:45 pm | |
| Andrey V. Elsukov | Oct 4, 2011 10:06 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 4, 2011 11:19 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 4, 2011 11:26 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 4, 2011 11:39 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 4, 2011 11:51 pm | |
| Andrey V. Elsukov | Oct 5, 2011 12:51 am | |
| Miroslav Lachman | Oct 5, 2011 1:23 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 5, 2011 1:50 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 5, 2011 1:58 am | |
| Alexander Motin | Oct 5, 2011 2:18 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 5, 2011 2:29 am | |
| Miroslav Lachman | Oct 5, 2011 7:49 am | |
| Scot Hetzel | Oct 5, 2011 8:11 am | |
| Alexander Motin | Oct 5, 2011 2:34 pm | |
| Miroslav Lachman | Oct 5, 2011 3:12 pm | |
| John-Mark Gurney | Oct 5, 2011 3:53 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 5, 2011 11:39 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 5, 2011 11:46 pm | |
| Ivan Voras | Oct 6, 2011 4:06 am | |
| Daniel Kalchev | Oct 6, 2011 4:29 am | |
| Ivan Voras | Oct 6, 2011 5:36 am | |
| Daniel Kalchev | Oct 6, 2011 5:42 am | |
| Miroslav Lachman | Oct 6, 2011 5:58 am | |
| Ivan Voras | Oct 6, 2011 6:43 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 6, 2011 6:53 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 6, 2011 6:55 am | |
| Daniel Kalchev | Oct 6, 2011 6:58 am | |
| Pieter de Goeje | Oct 6, 2011 7:03 am | |
| Andrey V. Elsukov | Oct 6, 2011 7:40 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 7, 2011 12:27 am | |
| per...@pluto.rain.com | Oct 7, 2011 7:06 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 7, 2011 12:43 pm | |
| Daniel Kalchev | Oct 7, 2011 1:13 pm | |
| Ivan Voras | Oct 7, 2011 1:22 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 8, 2011 1:55 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 8, 2011 1:56 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 8, 2011 2:04 am | |
| per...@pluto.rain.com | Oct 8, 2011 2:51 am | |
| Daniel Kalchev | Oct 8, 2011 12:56 pm | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 9, 2011 12:29 am | |
| Lev Serebryakov | Oct 9, 2011 12:31 am | |
| Miroslav Lachman | Oct 9, 2011 6:13 am | |
| per...@pluto.rain.com | Oct 9, 2011 6:59 am | |
| John | Oct 9, 2011 6:26 pm | |
| per...@pluto.rain.com | Oct 10, 2011 2:04 am |
| Subject: | Re: RFC: Project geom-events | |
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| From: | Alexander Motin (ma...@FreeBSD.org) | |
| Date: | Oct 4, 2011 2:45:03 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-current | |
Miroslav Lachman wrote:
Lev Serebryakov wrote:
One thing is missed from software RAIDs is spare drives and state monitoring (yes, I know, that geom_raid supports spare drivers for metadata formats which supports them, but it not universal solution).
I am still missing one thing - dropped provider is not marked as failed RAID provider and is accessible for anything like normal disk device. So in some edge cases, the system can boot from failed RAID component instead of degraded RAID. This can cause data loss or demage.
To reliably boot from RAID array, you need help from some RAID BIOS. While booting from correctly working gmirror is possible, it may not be reliable when array is degraded. That is one of the main benefits of the graid, comparing to gmirror -- cooperation with RAID BIOS.
Ability to track failed devices also depends on specific metadata format. For example, for Intel RAID BIOS, metadata stored on each disk include information about all other disks used now. As result, if some disk fails and system is unable to update it's metadata any more, that information can still be stored on other devices to prevent disk resurrection in most cases.
-- Alexander Motin
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