atom feed73 messages in org.apache.tomcat.usersRE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
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Subject:RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
From:Turner, John (JTur@AAS.com)
Date:Jan 9, 2003 5:22:51 am
List:org.apache.tomcat.users

Bascially, this all goes away with about 60 minutes of work with Apache and a connector, assuming, based on what you've posted before, one site/domain name, and a relatively simple Tomcat Context/webapp configuration.

Frankly, you are asking (begging?) for trouble if you are going to run Tomcat on port 80 (it has to run as root unlike Apache) to serve a site where public availability is such a priority. All due respect to Tomcat and the efforts of the dev team (I do feel Tomcat rocks), but that's like a deer running around in deer season with a bullseye painted on it's fur.

If you told me: "Design a solution that will be used by a company to get as much public exposure as possible, with public exposure being top priority and by the way it has to be secure and we don't want any trouble from crackers" the FIRST thing I would do would be install Apache. Bar none. THEN I would consider which engine to use for dynamic resolution, out of all the alternatives available, Tomcat only being one of them.

You've got a classic trade-off situation going. Tomcat Stand-alone is easy and convenient to use as a web server (port 80), but doing so has its drawbacks. Adding Apache as a "head" for Tomcat is less easy and not as convenient (drawbacks) but it also has its advantages (solves your 302 issue). The only person who can make the call is you.

John

-----Original Message----- From: neal [mailto:neal@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:52 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat

Its *not* that simple. Pagerank (guaging inbound links from other sites) would need to all be coordinated to point to that specifc file. This would be very difficult. PR is the most significant factor in SERPs on most modern engines and if a good inbound link was to point to your base URL (which most will do) its not going to count when the engine realizes it is a 302.

:(

-----Original Message----- From: Ralph Einfeldt [mailto:ralp@uptime-isc.de] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:42 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat

Me too.

Especially if the solution is sooo simple:

Just submit the url with the path to the welcome file to the searchenengines and most of them will be happy with that.

-----Original Message----- From: Turner, John [mailto:JTur@AAS.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:32 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat

I would disagree 100%. You're assuming that priority one for any commercial use of Tomcat is maximizing search engine placement for a given URL.