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| Andrew Bogott | Jul 2, 2012 12:16 pm | |
| Russell Bryant | Jul 2, 2012 12:26 pm | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 2, 2012 2:41 pm | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 2, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 2, 2012 3:18 pm | |
| John Postlethwait | Jul 2, 2012 4:42 pm | |
| Christopher B Ferris | Jul 2, 2012 5:41 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 3, 2012 2:31 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 3, 2012 2:34 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 3, 2012 5:37 am | |
| James E. Blair | Jul 3, 2012 6:55 am | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 3, 2012 10:46 am | |
| Dan Prince | Jul 3, 2012 10:59 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 3, 2012 11:59 am | |
| Andrew Bogott | Jul 3, 2012 12:47 pm | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 3, 2012 2:09 pm | |
| James E. Blair | Jul 3, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Eric Windisch | Jul 3, 2012 3:47 pm | |
| Andrew Bogott | Jul 3, 2012 3:54 pm | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 3, 2012 4:53 pm | |
| Timothy Daly | Jul 3, 2012 5:27 pm | |
| Monty Taylor | Jul 3, 2012 6:17 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 4, 2012 2:56 am | |
| Gabriel Hurley | Jul 4, 2012 3:17 pm | |
| Eric Windisch | Jul 4, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| Christopher B Ferris | Jul 5, 2012 4:29 am | |
| Sean Dague | Jul 5, 2012 6:55 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 5, 2012 7:16 am | |
| Joshua Harlow | Jul 5, 2012 10:21 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:01 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:13 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:16 am | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Jul 18, 2012 2:23 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 18, 2012 4:00 pm | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 23, 2012 8:50 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Jul 23, 2012 8:59 am | |
| Doug Hellmann | Jul 23, 2012 9:04 am | |
| Eric Windisch | Aug 2, 2012 1:05 pm | |
| Christopher B Ferris | Aug 2, 2012 2:08 pm | |
| Vishvananda Ishaya | Aug 2, 2012 3:47 pm | |
| Jay Pipes | Aug 2, 2012 5:18 pm | |
| Zhongyue Luo | Aug 2, 2012 5:24 pm | |
| Eric Windisch | Aug 2, 2012 5:51 pm | |
| Mark McLoughlin | Aug 2, 2012 10:26 pm | |
| Thierry Carrez | Aug 3, 2012 2:49 am | |
| Thierry Carrez | Aug 3, 2012 4:02 am | |
| Jay Pipes | Aug 3, 2012 9:25 am | |
| Eric Windisch | Aug 3, 2012 9:34 am |
| Subject: | Re: [Openstack] best practices for merging common into specific projects | |
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| From: | Thierry Carrez (thie...@openstack.org) | |
| Date: | Aug 3, 2012 2:49:18 am | |
| List: | net.launchpad.lists.openstack | |
Mark McLoughlin wrote:
On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 15:47 -0700, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Eric Windisch <er...@cloudscaling.com> wrote:
The scope of common is expanding. I believe it is time to seriously consider a proper PTL. Preferably, before the PTL elections.
+1
So, I guess I've been doing this unofficially. I'm happy for that to be "official" until the next round elections.
The only difference between a regular team lead and a "PTL" is the assignment of one seat on the Technical Committee. So the question is not whether openstack-common should have a formal lead, the question is whether the openstack-common lead should have an assigned seat on the future Technical Committee ("TC").
As you may know, I was advocating for a lean, directly-elected committee of 9 members, with no reserved seats. The current PPB (responsible for bootstrapping the TC) preferred another option: (elected) PTLs + 5 directly-elected members. My main opposition to that latter model was that it was difficult to separate between projects "worth an automatic seat" and projects "not worth an automatic seat", and that it would ultimately result in a bloated board as we continue to add new projects. With the all-directly-elected model we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
That said, I certainly think openstack-common is "worth" an automatic seat, and that with 13 members we'd not yet cross a critical bloat threshold. And Mark (or whoever else would get elected to common PTL) would certainly get elected in a direct election anyway. So I support that move, and will prepare a resolution to adjust the TC charter to accommodate this change and propose it at the next PPB meeting.
I just think that at some point in a not-so-distant future we'll have to reconsider the PTLs+5 setup to support further project growth while keeping the TC dedicated and efficient.
Regards,
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack
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