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| Stas Malyshev | May 8, 2011 4:40 pm | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 8, 2011 8:30 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 12:40 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 12:49 am | |
| Stefan Marr | May 9, 2011 1:00 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 1:01 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 1:03 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 1:37 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 7:44 am | |
| Martin Scotta | May 9, 2011 8:50 am | |
| Richard Quadling | May 9, 2011 9:13 am | |
| Philip Olson | May 9, 2011 9:17 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 9:43 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 9:54 am | |
| Marcelo Gornstein | May 9, 2011 9:54 am | |
| Alessandro Nadalin | May 9, 2011 10:01 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 10:05 am | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 10:12 am | |
| Marcelo Gornstein | May 9, 2011 10:19 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:20 am | |
| Matthew Weier O'Phinney | May 9, 2011 10:21 am | |
| Derick Rethans | May 9, 2011 10:21 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:22 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:25 am | |
| Christopher Jones | May 9, 2011 10:27 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 10:30 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:31 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 10:32 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 10:38 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 10:43 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:44 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:47 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 10:50 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 9, 2011 10:53 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 11:07 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 11:13 am | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 11:35 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 11:39 am | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 11:52 am | |
| Stefan Marr | May 9, 2011 12:33 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 2:41 pm | |
| dukeofgaming | May 9, 2011 3:00 pm | |
| Ilia Alshanetsky | May 9, 2011 3:09 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | May 9, 2011 3:39 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 4:26 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 4:29 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 5:25 pm | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 9, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 9, 2011 5:55 pm | |
| Stas Malyshev | May 9, 2011 6:22 pm | |
| Pierrick Charron | May 9, 2011 8:03 pm | |
| Mike Willbanks | May 9, 2011 8:42 pm | |
| Pierrick Charron | May 9, 2011 8:50 pm | |
| Drak | May 9, 2011 9:09 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 9, 2011 10:45 pm | |
| Pascal COURTOIS | May 9, 2011 11:06 pm | |
| Chad Fulton | May 10, 2011 12:01 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 12:43 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 1:02 am | |
| Jordi Boggiano | May 10, 2011 1:10 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 1:16 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 10, 2011 1:44 am | |
| Sebastian Bergmann | May 10, 2011 2:34 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 2:39 am | |
| Sebastian Bergmann | May 10, 2011 2:40 am | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 3:04 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 again | |
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| From: | Lester Caine (les...@lsces.co.uk) | |
| Date: | May 9, 2011 10:12:37 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
Stas Malyshev wrote:
It seems to me that you are not interested on user's request and rather accept/implement only what the features that interest you. It's very bad for the language and very bad for all of users.
Of course we are interested in user's requests, and we implemented tons of features at user's requests. That, however, does not mean we will implement _every_ requested feature, and of course for features that we like and understand the chance of being implemented are much higher and for features that core contributors don't feel make sense or go contrary to what they feel PHP should be the chance is low. I don't think it can work any other way, at least not in volunteer-driven project.
I do feel it is about time there was a little back-pedalling and asking 'What do we NEED in PHP'. Personally a lot of the things that are been 'demanded' are of little use to make PHP work any better, and only add to the processing time. If people want a fully typed compiled language why aren't they using python or java ;) My own development framework is phpeclipse, and that give me all of the hinting and error checking that I need IN THE EDITOR, I don't need the language weight down further with bells and whistles that do not improve performance of the end application. PHP used to be a nice nimble interpreted language that I can add pages to without having to compile anything. Nowadays it seems that those days are coming to an end? Keep the hinting and error checking to the tools where they belong.
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