8 messages in org.w3.www-rdf-calendarRe: missing types [was: revert recent...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Dan Connolly | Oct 14, 2004 8:35 am | |
| Masahide Kanzaki | Oct 14, 2004 9:23 am | |
| dan...@w3.org | Oct 14, 2004 8:11 pm | |
| Leo Sauermann | Oct 15, 2004 1:16 am | |
| Dan Connolly | Oct 19, 2004 6:25 am | |
| Leo Sauermann | Oct 21, 2004 1:15 am | |
| Dan Connolly | Oct 21, 2004 5:52 am | |
| Leo Sauermann | Oct 22, 2004 1:26 am |
| Subject: | Re: missing types [was: revert recent timezone changes?...] | |
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| From: | Leo Sauermann (le...@gnowsis.com) | |
| Date: | Oct 22, 2004 1:26:21 am | |
| List: | org.w3.www-rdf-calendar | |
Masahide,
I would love to hear feedback from you, too, on this topic, as you have much practical experience with this questions.
i.e. the scheme misses the types #Value_DATE-TIME #Value_DATE
Missing in what way? I might have known at one time, but I don't remember now.
trying to explain my concern:
the class #Value_DATE-TIME is used as range of about 20 properties.
but the class #Value_DATE-TIME is not defined. same with #Value_DATE (i just looked using text editor. but perhaps I have to look using protege? hm...)
so we miss the basic datatype of dates and times, (which renders most of an ontology about calendars useless). (but probably i am wrong as we have used the vocab for years now and such a flaw would have emerged in previous implementation efforts)
so IF (there is a problem) THEN
Solutions: (option 1) // add a class <rdfs:Class rdf:about="#Value_DATE-TIME"> .... </rdfs:Class>
(option 2) // trash this thing and replace it by a standard time notation delete #Value_DATE-TIME completely and replace it by http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date
I would prefer option 2, as this XMLSchema thing is pretty supported in Jena and perhaps other tools.
and I would definitely trash the date-time format defined by vCalendar, that is old school date timing. The XML-Schema thing is what we need for Semantic Web community, or?
so for example: (solution 2) <rdf:Description rdf:ID="completed"> <rdfs:label>COMPLETED</rdfs:label> <rdfs:comment>This property defines the date and time that a to-do was actually completed.</rdfs:comment> <rdfs:comment> value type: DATE-TIME</rdfs:comment> <spec:valueType>DATE-TIME</spec:valueType> <rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#ObjectProperty"/> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#datetime" /> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#Vtodo"/> </rdf:Description>
hope that helps to bring the scheme to more use,
cheers Leo
btw, I think we do not have to slave ourselves under the structures of old vocabularies, the terms count. see for example my vCard scheme hack, http://www.gnowsis.org/ont/vcard.rdfs
which is not perfect but a little more RDF style structured than http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/NOTE-vcard-rdf-20010222/
which is really really bad, as they are used all over the place. or did I miss something here?