75 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-hackersRe: The -stable problem: my view| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Greg Lehey | Jun 7, 1996 3:15 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 6:29 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 8:29 am | |
| Karl Denninger, MCSNet | Jun 7, 1996 8:41 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 10:02 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 11:22 am | |
| Angelo Turetta | Jun 7, 1996 11:48 am | |
| Marc G. Fournier | Jun 7, 1996 12:05 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 12:53 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 12:53 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 1:07 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 2:12 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 2:26 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 2:58 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 3:07 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 3:15 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 3:24 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 4:00 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 4:06 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 4:27 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 4:40 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 4:42 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 4:56 pm | |
| Justin T. Gibbs | Jun 7, 1996 5:35 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 5:59 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 6:07 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 6:13 pm | |
| Scott Blachowicz | Jun 7, 1996 7:03 pm | |
| Michael Hancock | Jun 7, 1996 7:08 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 7:21 pm | |
| Michael Hancock | Jun 7, 1996 7:25 pm | |
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| David Greenman | Jun 7, 1996 9:06 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 9:07 pm | |
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| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 9:18 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 9:39 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 9:58 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 10:13 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 10:24 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 10:24 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 10:26 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 7, 1996 10:33 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Jun 7, 1996 10:34 pm | |
| David Greenman | Jun 7, 1996 10:40 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 7, 1996 11:03 pm | |
| John Birrell | Jun 7, 1996 11:18 pm | |
| Justin T. Gibbs | Jun 7, 1996 11:22 pm | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Jun 8, 1996 1:24 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 8, 1996 2:28 am | |
| Narvi | Jun 8, 1996 2:33 am | |
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| Narvi | Jun 8, 1996 3:05 am | |
| Heiko Blume | Jun 8, 1996 4:29 am | |
| Michael Hancock | Jun 8, 1996 8:22 am | |
| Garrett Wollman | Jun 8, 1996 11:18 am | |
| Justin T. Gibbs | Jun 8, 1996 1:52 pm | |
| M.R.Murphy | Jun 8, 1996 2:10 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 8, 1996 2:52 pm | |
| M.R.Murphy | Jun 8, 1996 3:40 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jun 8, 1996 4:08 pm | |
| Julian H. Stacey | Jun 9, 1996 3:54 am | |
| Randy Terbush | Jun 9, 1996 7:21 am | |
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| Randy Terbush | Jun 9, 1996 8:40 am | |
| Ollivier Robert | Jun 9, 1996 12:56 pm | |
| Bob Willcox | Jun 9, 1996 2:32 pm | |
| Andrew V. Stesin | Jun 10, 1996 1:45 am | |
| Narvi | Jun 10, 1996 6:54 am | |
| Andrew V. Stesin | Jun 10, 1996 7:40 am | |
| Narvi | Jun 10, 1996 8:48 am | |
| Michael Robinson | Jun 14, 1996 2:38 am | |
| Amancio Hasty | Jun 14, 1996 3:00 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Jun 17, 1996 11:32 am |
| Subject: | Re: The -stable problem: my view | |
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| From: | Nate Williams (na...@sri.MT.net) | |
| Date: | Jun 7, 1996 3:24:29 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-hackers | |
I am not suggesting enforcing this at the tool level; I'm suggesting that the tools should be set up so that this is the "natural" result of their proper use.
Right now, it is possible to properly use the tools in accordance with policy and end up with an unbuildable tree.
Yes, but only if the developer isn't paying attention. This has happened less times than I can count on two hands. Considering that we're probably approaching hundreds of thousands of commits since we've started, I'd say we're doing pretty well and that nothing needs to change as far as that part of commit process goes.
Look, I hate coming back to the recent yacc stuff because it makes it look like I'm pointing fingers, but it's just the most recent example in a long line of examples that belie your statement.
Poul didn't finish what he started. That was bad, but the locking protocol of CVS wouldn't have done anything to solve that problem. The only way to solve that problem is to either build in enough smarts into the tool so that you *can't* commit code that causes the tree to break (basically impossible given the current resources), or have the developers police themselves and use 'people' to enforce the rules.
The issue you brought up was the somehow CVS locking would solve part of the problem, so it's irrelevant to the problem at hand re: -stable vs. -current.
No more shall be said by me since all that needs to be said has been. (and then some).
Nate