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14 messages in org.apache.legal-discussRe: Maven repository issues [Was: Cre...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Henri Yandell | May 29, 2008 1:06 am | |
| Stefano Bagnara | May 29, 2008 1:17 am | |
| Assaf Arkin | May 29, 2008 10:53 am | |
| Henri Yandell | May 29, 2008 12:10 pm | |
| Stefano Bagnara | May 29, 2008 12:35 pm | |
| David Jencks | May 29, 2008 12:47 pm | |
| Craig L Russell | May 29, 2008 2:38 pm | |
| Gilles Scokart | May 30, 2008 1:04 am | |
| Stefano Bagnara | May 30, 2008 1:47 am | |
| Assaf Arkin | May 30, 2008 2:50 am | |
| sebb | May 30, 2008 2:51 am | |
| Stefano Bagnara | May 30, 2008 3:33 am | |
| Assaf Arkin | May 30, 2008 4:33 am | |
| Gilles Scokart | May 30, 2008 4:35 am |
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| Subject: | Re: Maven repository issues [Was: Creative Commons Attribution License] | Actions... |
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| From: | Assaf Arkin (ark...@intalio.com) | |
| Date: | May 30, 2008 2:50:56 am | |
| List: | org.apache.legal-discuss | |
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Gilles Scokart <gsco...@gmail.com> wrote:
2008/5/29 Assaf Arkin <ark...@intalio.com>:
Except, not everything is copyrightable, it has to have some creativity in it.
This particular case is not copyrightable, and slapping a copyright statement on it won't change that.
I can't disagree more. Writing a pom requires a lot of creativity. You have to carrefully choose the libraries with sometimes multiple possibilities, you need to choose the right versions, you have to put a scope on each one, you have to choose which one you want to inherit transitevely and which one you want to specify at first level dependencies, you will have to choose if you want to use a dependencyManagment block or not, if you want to use a prent pom or not, and I didn't talked about the profiles...
The case presented by Stefano, which I was referring to:
"that even the most simple pom automatically generated by maven when installing an artifact with no pom (so that it only contains the artifactId, groupId and version) is copyrightable."
Why do you think that there is so many bad designed pom on the maven repositories ? It simply because to write a good pom you must be an artist ;-) !
Anyway, it requires creativity. For quiet a lot of project, 2 persons would probably produce 2 different pom.
When it comes to trademarks and patents, first to make a successful claims owns it, anyone else has to obtain a license.
Copyright doesn't have that form of exclusivity. If you and I both create identical files, then both of us own copyright to identical content, doesn't matter who did it first. It's infringing when I copy your work copyrightable, not when I create the same thing.
You are right that there are POMs out there that definitely constitute original work and I wouldn't be able to recreate those in a million years (not enough monkeys). But the distinction would boil down to things like description, which mailing lists you put there, how you use properties, etc.
When it comes to a dummy POM, or one that lists the right incantation of magic dependencies (which I believe falls under discovery, itself not copyrightable), nothing original about it.
Assaf
-- Gilles Scokart
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