| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| 28 earlier messages | ||
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 3, 1997 5:23 pm | |
| Steve Passe | Dec 3, 1997 5:31 pm | |
| John Kelly | Dec 3, 1997 5:41 pm | |
| Karl Denninger | Dec 3, 1997 6:17 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Dec 3, 1997 6:38 pm | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 3, 1997 7:22 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 3, 1997 7:33 pm | |
| John S. Dyson | Dec 3, 1997 7:45 pm | |
| Kevin Day | Dec 3, 1997 8:09 pm | |
| John Hay | Dec 3, 1997 10:00 pm | |
| Mark Mayo | Dec 3, 1997 10:21 pm | |
| David Greenman | Dec 3, 1997 11:10 pm | |
| Narvi | Dec 3, 1997 11:34 pm | |
| John Hay | Dec 3, 1997 11:37 pm | |
| David Greenman | Dec 4, 1997 12:01 am | |
| Studded | Dec 4, 1997 1:00 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 1:39 am | |
| Ari Suutari | Dec 4, 1997 1:59 am | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Dec 4, 1997 3:33 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 4:57 am | |
| Søren Schmidt | Dec 4, 1997 6:00 am | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Dec 4, 1997 6:04 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 6:06 am | |
| John Kelly | Dec 4, 1997 6:14 am | |
| Stephen Roome | Dec 4, 1997 6:34 am | |
| John Kelly | Dec 4, 1997 8:10 am | |
| Kevin Day | Dec 4, 1997 8:31 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 9:31 am | |
| Karl Denninger | Dec 4, 1997 9:32 am | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 4, 1997 10:39 am | |
| Steve Passe | Dec 4, 1997 11:10 am | |
| Steve Passe | Dec 4, 1997 11:13 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 11:27 am | |
| John-Mark Gurney | Dec 4, 1997 11:42 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 12:11 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Dec 4, 1997 12:36 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 1:48 pm | |
| Karl Denninger | Dec 4, 1997 3:07 pm | |
| John Kelly | Dec 4, 1997 3:16 pm | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 4, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Bob Bishop | Dec 4, 1997 4:16 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Dec 4, 1997 5:20 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 5:21 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 6:04 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Dec 4, 1997 7:22 pm | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 4, 1997 7:28 pm | |
| Mark Mayo | Dec 4, 1997 8:46 pm | |
| Mark Mayo | Dec 4, 1997 8:59 pm | |
| Steve Passe | Dec 4, 1997 9:01 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Dec 4, 1997 9:24 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 9:52 pm | |
| Shawn Ramsey | Dec 4, 1997 10:33 pm | |
| Greg Lehey | Dec 4, 1997 10:35 pm | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 4, 1997 10:49 pm | |
| Bruce Evans | Dec 4, 1997 11:46 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 5, 1997 1:32 am | |
| Søren Schmidt | Dec 5, 1997 1:39 am | |
| Ari Suutari | Dec 5, 1997 2:37 am | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 5, 1997 3:37 am | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Dec 5, 1997 4:21 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 5, 1997 12:03 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 5, 1997 12:05 pm | |
| Jim Bryant | Dec 5, 1997 1:19 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Dec 5, 1997 2:03 pm | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Dec 5, 1997 2:37 pm | |
| Mike Smith | Dec 5, 1997 6:39 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 5, 1997 7:03 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Dec 5, 1997 8:36 pm | |
| Shawn Ramsey | Dec 5, 1997 9:22 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Dec 5, 1997 10:38 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Dec 5, 1997 10:41 pm | |
| John S. Dyson | Dec 5, 1997 11:04 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 5, 1997 11:52 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 6, 1997 12:09 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Dec 6, 1997 1:54 am | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 6, 1997 3:34 am | |
| Brian Somers | Dec 6, 1997 6:34 am | |
| Gianmarco Giovannelli | Dec 6, 1997 8:31 am | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 6, 1997 11:28 am | |
| Louis A. Mamakos | Dec 6, 1997 12:04 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:01 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:10 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:12 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:15 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:22 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 6, 1997 2:55 pm | |
| Tim Vanderhoek | Dec 6, 1997 3:40 pm | |
| John S. Dyson | Dec 6, 1997 3:56 pm | |
| John S. Dyson | Dec 6, 1997 4:03 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 6, 1997 4:24 pm | |
| Greg Lehey | Dec 7, 1997 12:59 am | |
| Narvi | Dec 7, 1997 2:20 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 12:15 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 12:49 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 12:52 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 1:17 pm | |
| Brian Behlendorf | Dec 7, 1997 1:56 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 7, 1997 5:51 pm | |
| Ari Suutari | Dec 7, 1997 11:21 pm | |
| Brian Somers | Dec 9, 1997 6:17 pm | |
| Subject: | Re: 3.0 -release ? | |
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| From: | Chuck Robey (chu...@glue.umd.edu) | |
| Date: | Dec 4, 1997 9:24:16 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-current | |
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Well, at least we are closer to having a full package set available for 3.0-snaps now. (4-CD snap? :> )
It's no joke, I may have to do that soon! :-(
[lots deleted]
The second thing I think we need to consider is that in the longer term, I can easily see a day where the ports and packages collection have grown to the point where decoupling them from the primary FreeBSD releases becomes essential in order that the "base system" remain reasonably priced.
I know I proposed this specifically myself a good while back (I don't know if I was first, tho) but considering the *value* involved in the ports product, along with it's massive size, it seems very easily supportable. Along with that, it's now becoming a resource for NetBSD and OpenBSD fans, and I'll bet those folks would appreciate not having to pay for FreeBSD parts they don't want.
Having it's own product advertisements and separate billing can only increase FreeBSD's total visibility, and considering Walnut Creek's massive support of FreeBSD over the long term, I admit it doesn't bother me in the least if they manage to make money from it.
Doing this would also allow Walnut Creek CDROM to see just how much revenue the ports collection alone generated, and as a new product I'm pretty confident that I could negotiate in advance that a slice of the pie from every ports collection CD sale go into a special "support the ports collection project fund" (over and above money already given to FreeBSD.org) from which we could buy Satoshi and crew a package :-) [and I've been thinking of some nice 10 drive CCD array configurations which would really do the job nicely when mated with a dual-processor PII-300. ;)]
Huh ... Jordan's getting power mad. I want a pic of you, dolled up with a lab coat and a fright wig, in the green glow of an oversized monitor!
What do folks think of all this?
Jordan
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