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168 messages in net.php.lists.internalsStuck on PHP 4?| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Derick Rethans | Jul 6, 2007 7:32 am | |
| David Coallier | Jul 6, 2007 7:41 am | |
| Tijnema | Jul 6, 2007 7:42 am | |
| Antony Dovgal | Jul 6, 2007 7:42 am | |
| Jeremy Privett | Jul 6, 2007 7:43 am | |
| Alain Williams | Jul 6, 2007 7:45 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Jul 6, 2007 7:46 am | |
| Richard Quadling | Jul 6, 2007 7:47 am | |
| Sebastian Bergmann | Jul 6, 2007 7:47 am | |
| Scott MacVicar | Jul 6, 2007 7:49 am | |
| Vesselin Kenashkov | Jul 6, 2007 7:51 am | |
| Robert Cummings | Jul 6, 2007 8:00 am | |
| Lester Caine | Jul 6, 2007 8:00 am | |
| Johannes Schlüter | Jul 6, 2007 8:03 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Jul 6, 2007 8:07 am | |
| Brian Moon | Jul 6, 2007 8:09 am | |
| Antony Dovgal | Jul 6, 2007 8:22 am | |
| Mikko Koppanen | Jul 6, 2007 8:41 am | |
| Stanislav Malyshev | Jul 6, 2007 8:48 am | |
| Stefan Priebsch | Jul 6, 2007 8:48 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Jul 6, 2007 8:58 am | |
| Antony Dovgal | Jul 6, 2007 9:06 am | |
| David Coallier | Jul 6, 2007 9:08 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Jul 6, 2007 9:29 am | |
| Christopher Jones | Jul 6, 2007 9:41 am | |
| Stanislav Malyshev | Jul 6, 2007 9:47 am | |
| William A. Rowe, Jr. | Jul 6, 2007 9:50 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Jul 6, 2007 9:53 am | |
| Vesselin Kenashkov | Jul 6, 2007 10:01 am | |
| Stanislav Malyshev | Jul 6, 2007 10:11 am | |
| Guilherme Blanco | Jul 6, 2007 10:28 am | |
| Derick Rethans | Jul 6, 2007 10:33 am | |
| Guilherme Blanco | Jul 6, 2007 10:34 am | |
| Marco | Jul 6, 2007 10:46 am | |
| Marco | Jul 6, 2007 10:56 am | |
| Marco | Jul 6, 2007 11:00 am | |
| Tomas Kuliavas | Jul 6, 2007 11:21 am | |
| Chuck Burgess | Jul 6, 2007 11:28 am | |
| Alain Williams | Jul 6, 2007 11:31 am | |
| Evert | Rooftop | Jul 6, 2007 11:44 am | |
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| Tomas Kuliavas | Jul 6, 2007 1:29 pm | |
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| Anton C. Swartz IV | Jul 6, 2007 3:25 pm | |
| Guilherme Blanco | Jul 6, 2007 3:46 pm | |
| scott lewis | Jul 6, 2007 3:58 pm | |
| Tijnema | Jul 6, 2007 5:10 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Jul 6, 2007 9:37 pm | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Jul 6, 2007 10:25 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Jul 6, 2007 10:33 pm | |
| Vesselin Kenashkov | Jul 7, 2007 1:00 am | |
| Rodrigo Moraes | Jul 7, 2007 2:26 am | |
| Pierre | Jul 7, 2007 4:35 am | |
| Johannes Schlüter | Jul 7, 2007 4:58 am | |
| Jani Taskinen | Jul 7, 2007 6:00 am | |
| Vesselin Kenashkov | Jul 7, 2007 6:01 am | |
| Marco | Jul 7, 2007 6:18 am | |
| Derick Rethans | Jul 7, 2007 7:26 am | |
| Andi Gutmans | Jul 7, 2007 9:01 am | |
| Stefan Priebsch | Jul 7, 2007 9:14 am | |
| Larry Garfield | Jul 7, 2007 12:11 pm | |
| Stanislav Malyshev | Jul 8, 2007 2:22 am | |
| Derick Rethans | Jul 8, 2007 2:45 am | |
| Alain Williams | Jul 8, 2007 7:14 am | |
| Lukas Kahwe Smith | Jul 8, 2007 7:34 am | |
| Keryx Web | Jul 8, 2007 11:09 am | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | Jul 8, 2007 1:05 pm | |
| Tomas Kuliavas | Jul 8, 2007 1:25 pm | |
| David Coallier | Jul 8, 2007 2:20 pm | |
| Andi Gutmans | Jul 8, 2007 4:03 pm | |
| Tijnema | Jul 8, 2007 4:28 pm | |
| Larry Garfield | Jul 8, 2007 5:06 pm | |
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| Subject: | Stuck on PHP 4? | Actions... |
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| From: | William A. Rowe, Jr. (wro...@rowe-clan.net) | |
| Date: | Jul 6, 2007 9:50:12 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
Vesselin Kenashkov wrote:
-1 Because the majority of the installation (somebody two month ago in this list mentioned that php 5 has just 10% adoption) is still php4 just makes no sense to drop the support.
This is a very old and tired argument, and pretty much is exactly where Apache httpd was, with respect to 1.3, at a similar timeframe.
Folks find it to easy to stay with what they have installed. And even once 4.4 'ends', you will still have security patches (as mentioned) to keep them safe, if they even bother the patch/update. Adoption will be slow.
But it doesn't justify leaving the developers dug in the sands trying to move changes back to 4.4. If they want the glitz, jazz and even the most up to date bug fixes, they'll have to come along for the ride.
Take care of your *developers*, and your users will have a platform they can appreciate and enjoy. Focus on acting like a BigCo and you will sap the developers' time and energy.