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Subject:[ python-Bugs-789262 ] __getattr__ and metaclassesActions...
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Date:Mar 1, 2004 6:12:22 am
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Bugs item #789262, was opened at 2003-08-15 15:18 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by mwh You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105470&aid=789262&group_id=5470

Category: Type/class unification Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Gon?alo Rodrigues (grodr) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: __getattr__ and metaclasses

Initial Comment: This came out from a thread in comp.lang.python: Here?s the reference:

http://groups.google.pt/groups?hl=pt-PT&lr=&ie=UTF- 8&threadm=md94jvccu02b9dv5890k34629rkot79roj% 404ax.com&rnum=6&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dgon%25C3% 25A7alo%2Brodrigues%2Bgroup:comp.lang.python.*% 26hl%3Dpt-PT%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group% 3Dcomp.lang.python.*%26selm% 3Dmd94jvccu02b9dv5890k34629rkot79roj% 25404ax.com%26rnum%3D6

Consider the following example (provided by M. Simionato)

class M(type):

... def __getattr__(self, name): ... if name == '__iter__': ... return lambda self: iter([]) ...

class C(object):

... __metaclass__ = M ...

C.__iter__ <function <lambda> at 0x0110E8F0> c = C() iter(c)

Traceback (most recent call last): File "<interactive input>", line 1, in ? TypeError: iteration over non-sequence

This means that the iterator machinery does not check __getattr__ (or __getattribute__ for that matter ? I have made the test). The Language Reference says:

?A class can implement certain operations that are invoked by special syntax (such as arithmetic operations or subscripting and slicing) by defining methods with special names.?

Which does not throw much light on the matter at hand. So there are two ways we can view the above:

(A) It?s a bug.

This is the one I favour ;-). Arguing by contradiction, not being considered a bug means that there is a very special distinction being made when it comes to attribute lookup of special names.

I tend to follow the Gang of Four?s main injunction ?Prefer composition to inheritance?. Composition is great in Python precisely because of the __getattr__ hook. Not being able to use __getattr__ in metaclasses to trap special names surely hampers that role somewhat.

(B) It?s not a bug.

Then at least I think that the documentation should be worded more accurately. Quoting A. Martelli on the same thread

?__getattr__ is not a BINDING of the special method, though it may be considered a DEFINITION of it, which is why the current phrase in the Language Reference is not 100% correct and complete -- only 99.44%, and I agree that the remaining 0.56% _is_ a delicate defect in the documentation.?

With my best regards, G. Rodrigues

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Comment By: Michael Hudson (mwh)

Date: 2004-03-01 11:12

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Metaclasses are not guilty here!

It's more complicated than that.

iter(o) does (roughly)

o->ob_type->tp_iter(o)

At class definition time, if the class defines __iter__, a wrapper for it is stuffed into the type's tp_iter slot. If it doesn't, NULL is placed there instead.

What *could* be done is, if the *meta*class defines __getattr__ or __getattribute__, all the tp_ slots could be filled with a special wrapper that calls the generic attribute getter. But that would be quite a coding effort, and these classes would have pretty atrocious performance.

And making this work when you assign to __getattribute__ on the metaclass would be a truly crazy piece of code.

Or the docs could note this limitation.

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Comment By: Michele Simionato (michele_s) Date: 2003-08-21 11:16

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Two comments:

1. The credit for discovering this "issue" goes to Bjorn Pettersen, not to me.

2. The issue is NOT with metaclasses, the title should be "special methods and __getattr__"

The metaclass works perfectly fine and

X.__iter__(x)

works. The problem is with the "iter" builtin, since

iter(x) DOES NOT call X.__iter__(x).

Same with str, len, etc.

Metaclasses are not guilty here!

Michele

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