Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:

You have been forced to do so for many years, you just haven't been told about it until 0.42. I just now discovered that something is overwriting my [wrap]. I don't know yet which library does that. It would be nice if Pd could report the source library file together with the warning.

Huh? The only "incompatibility" is the new *feature* of alias names for overwritten objects. 0.42's [pow~] or [abs~] also are a new *feature* implemented by popular demand. Loading libraries and the overwriting itself hasn't changed at all AFAIK. If you don't use the alias names, you don't have any problems.

I agree with you that external libraries generally shouldn't overwrite builtins. When using Cyclone for Max-importing it makes sense, though.

But IMO the aliasing is less insane than not being able to use the builtins at all, as is the case if you load object-overwriting-libraries like zexy or cyclone in any Pd version before 0.42, including pd-extended.

Note that here I use libraries in the "-lib"-loading many-externals-in-one-file sense here, not in the sense where everything (libs, singles, abstractions, "libdirs") is called a library and setting a path is called "loading a library".

Ciao