On Mar 10, 2011, at 18:09 , Doug Barton wrote:

Apples and oranges, my friend. Given the sheer amount of stuff we have in
ports/, there is a small amount of stuff that hasn't been updated in forever,
nor ever will be, requiring the "legacy" autoconf-2.13/automake-1.4

Go look up pkgsrc. Or any Linux distribution. You'll find both of them lying
there. I'd love to nuke them, and those ports that require them to build, but
people tend to get upset when Really Important Application (sic) gets removed
from under them.

As for the rest of your post. It's the usual diatribe. If you think you can do
better, by all means, step up to the plate and actually _do_ something. Like
yours truly has done reducing libtool to 1 version, and autoconf/automake to 2
versions (legacy and current).

Unless you're prepared to step up to the plate, offer alternate _concrete_ plans
(as I have already done) and are willing to spend considerable brain and cpu
cycles to get to the desired solution, you have no right to question what _is_
being done by those that _are_ doing it.

This is _not_ a democracy. The war cry of "Patches Welcome" should be obvious
in that fact.

So. Let's see your patches. Seriously. Hell, if someone else takes this on
(and note, it is only a matter of time before something fundamental _requires_
GNU make 3.82, so we can't just bury our heads in the sand), go for it.

Didn't think so.

-aDe