13 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-currentRe: why is tcl in base distribution| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Steve Kargl | Dec 17, 1997 9:48 am | |
| Tom | Dec 17, 1997 11:25 am | |
| Steve Kargl | Dec 17, 1997 12:24 pm | |
| Mike Smith | Dec 17, 1997 2:30 pm | |
| Steve Kargl | Dec 17, 1997 2:47 pm | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 17, 1997 2:53 pm | |
| Steve Kargl | Dec 17, 1997 3:04 pm | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 17, 1997 3:33 pm | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 17, 1997 3:38 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Dec 17, 1997 4:53 pm | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 17, 1997 5:28 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 17, 1997 6:11 pm | |
| Steve Kargl | Dec 17, 1997 9:20 pm |
| Subject: | Re: why is tcl in base distribution | |
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| From: | Steve Kargl (sg...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) | |
| Date: | Dec 17, 1997 2:47:51 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-current | |
On 17-Dec-97 Mike Smith wrote:
I tried to build tkrat from the ports-current collection, and to my amazement the make process tried to install the tcl80 port. tcl80 is a duplicate of tcl installed by a make world. So,
(1) Why is tcl in the base distribution if it is not used?
Because the plan is to have it used. There are a number of in-development tools which will benefit a great deal from its presence.
Ah yes, the mythical sys-admin tools. If FreeBSD was a product of a local company here in Seattle, we would be screaming about vaporware. Check the CVS logs. A version of tcl was committed in June of 1996, and since that time /usr/sbin/addgroup has appeared.
(2) Why is the ports-current collection ignoring the version of tcl installed with the base distribution?
Because the ports collection strives to be self-contained. This is a Very Smart Idea, not the least because if the anti-bloat faction rips Tcl bleeding from the corpse of the system, the ports will still work.
I agree with this Very Smart Idea. Tcl belongs in the ports collection. Period.
If you really want to sew little gold stars on parts of the system, I'd start with the games collection, some of the libraries (libss has been identified as a candidate for replacement, with some work, for example), and then a sweep over the other binaries.
I don't understand your point, here. I can cvsup the src tree and choose to neglect the games. I can build and install the world without the games. The only evidence that src/games exists after a make world is the fact that mtree creates /usr/games.
Sure, I can do a make -DNOTCL world, and not install tcl. But, cvsup still populates src/contrib/tcl.
-- Steve
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