36 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-isdnRe: I4B support for US ISDN?| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| William McVey | Jan 22, 1999 5:06 pm | |
| Achim Patzner | Jan 23, 1999 5:03 am | |
| Martin Husemann | Jan 23, 1999 6:40 am | |
| Hellmuth Michaelis | Jan 23, 1999 9:04 am | |
| Archie Cobbs | Jan 23, 1999 2:11 pm | |
| Archie Cobbs | Jan 23, 1999 4:05 pm | |
| Avalon Books | Jan 23, 1999 5:26 pm | |
| Martin Husemann | Jan 24, 1999 1:16 am | |
| Martin Husemann | Jan 24, 1999 1:26 am | |
| Hellmuth Michaelis | Jan 24, 1999 1:47 am | |
| Stefan Herrmann | Jan 24, 1999 4:26 am | |
| Hellmuth Michaelis | Jan 24, 1999 8:26 am | |
| Avalon Books | Jan 24, 1999 8:44 am | |
| Archie Cobbs | Jan 24, 1999 9:56 am | |
| Hellmuth Michaelis | Jan 24, 1999 10:49 am | |
| Achim Patzner | Jan 24, 1999 11:21 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Jan 24, 1999 4:36 pm | |
| Avalon Books | Jan 24, 1999 7:45 pm | |
| Archie Cobbs | Jan 24, 1999 8:06 pm | |
| Hellmuth Michaelis | Jan 25, 1999 12:54 am | |
| Barry Scott | Jan 25, 1999 2:44 am | |
| Achim Patzner | Jan 25, 1999 3:04 am | |
| Barry Scott | Jan 25, 1999 3:52 am | |
| Archie Cobbs | Jan 25, 1999 11:49 am | |
| Avalon Books | Jan 25, 1999 5:03 pm | |
| William McVey | Jan 26, 1999 10:08 am | |
| H. Eckert | Jan 26, 1999 5:41 pm | |
| Bert Driehuis | Jan 26, 1999 6:10 pm | |
| Avalon Books | Jan 26, 1999 6:56 pm | |
| Archie Cobbs | Jan 26, 1999 8:22 pm | |
| Andreas Klemm | Jan 26, 1999 9:10 pm | |
| Archie Cobbs | Jan 26, 1999 10:03 pm | |
| Achim Patzner | Jan 27, 1999 3:19 am | |
| Ignatios Souvatzis | Jan 27, 1999 3:34 am | |
| Gary Jennejohn | Jan 27, 1999 12:11 pm | |
| Thordur Ivarsson | Jan 27, 1999 6:42 pm |
| Subject: | Re: I4B support for US ISDN? | |
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| From: | Avalon Books (ava...@advicom.net) | |
| Date: | Jan 24, 1999 7:45:51 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-isdn | |
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote:
More flexible? Hm... I would be interested in hearing a detailed explanation for that.
Its simple: a TA or router allows you to do only that things, the TA or router was designed to let you do. A passive ISDN card allows you to do everything ISDN allows you to do.
Oh? So what does european ISDN offer that U.S. ISDN doesn't? So far, my TA allows me to use all of the features available from my Telco (and its a long list, I assure you). My engineering contact (who is reading this as I type it) informs me that from a "features" standpoint, european and U.S. ISDN systems are, in essence, identical...
Sidenote: there is an exception to what i just said. I know of one manu- facturer of ISDN routers who built a thing called "remote CAPI" into their routers, which allows you to access the ISDN by issuing CAPI messages over IP. If you want to know what CAPI is, look at www.capi.org. In case i were in the situation i was, when i started ISDN driver writing under FreeBSD, today, i would just buy such a device and done.
Hmmm... Interesting. I shall have to discuss this with my engineering contacts, though it sounds familiar. Actually, after browsing through the CAPI page, it looks like most of the things discussed are normally implemented as firmware (aka user-proof). Still, I will verify this before committing myself to any exact statement.
Hopefully - and the code is already there - i4b will run with the existing PPP code, although i don't see the need: bonding two B-channels together does not make much sense here.
Why not?
Its too expensive (for me!) within the current pricing scheme over here, now forgive me that i don't explain our current pricing ... ;-)
I understand. I begin to wonder if the people responsible for creating the pricing schemes for my Telco are under the influence mind-altering drugs...
transfers. The costs of using ISDN for voice communications are bad enough without intentionally makeing it worse for myself.
And the strange thing happening here is, that ISDN (voice) communication is cheaper than analog voice communication since the beginning of this year :-)
I wish I could say the same. Though a single BRI is only slightly more expensive than a pair of analog lines--unless you go over the time limits. Then the additional taxes become painful, indeed. I have the misfortune to live in a state where there's no such thing as flat-rate ISDN (sigh).
The conditions under which it pays to use ISDN and/or to use features ISDN is able to provide are just _totally_ different in Europe and the US.
I'm not entirely sure I would agree with such a statement, but I'll take your word for it for now. Heh... Looks like I'll be pestering my friends at Alpha Telecom alot this next week (grin)...
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