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| Aleksandar Lazic | Apr 20, 2008 2:34 pm | |
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| Subject: | Re: OT: 'best' dynamic language | |
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| From: | Manlio Perillo (manl...@public.gmane.org) | |
| Date: | Apr 22, 2008 7:30:46 am | |
| List: | ru.sysoev.nginx | |
Marcin Kasperski ha scritto:
Regarding nginx support: currently I tend to believe that using nginx as reverse proxy (and static file server) may be the best runtime configuration....
The problem with reverse proxy is that you need another server,
FastCGI/SCGI/etc are also another server, just less explicit ;-)
Of course :)
and this server is usually written in Python, and most of the time it uses threads for concurrency,
If you are hardcore, you can use twisted. But IMO it is overkill for web.
By the way I'm a Twisted programmer :). This how I came to know and low asynchronous programming!
And I have also used Twisted Web (and Nevow) for a rather big web application.
However I think that Nginx + mod_wsgi + templating system like Mako produces applications that are more maintainable and modular.
Also, threads are not that bad in such context. Note that here you have non-trivial code, which makes some database operations, dynamically formats pages using templates, etc. The cost of some context switches is far less noticeable than in case of static file serving.
The problem is not with context switches, but with the Python Global Interpreter Lock.
1) Use Nginx as main server + reverse proxy 2) Run your application embedded in Apache or Nginx (but the application should be written with care)
I do not see any advantages of apache here (unless you want to use existing permissions, authorization etc infrastructure already defined for apache).
No, Apache *has* advantages. You have a very robust server for your application, and it's wsgi module allows much more control then any of the "custom" servers written in Python.
Manlio Perillo