22 messages in net.java.dev.glassfish.adminRe: Handling commands missing from a ...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 12, 2009 3:11 pm | |
| Lloyd Chambers | Mar 12, 2009 3:17 pm | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 12, 2009 3:30 pm | |
| Jane Young | Mar 12, 2009 3:32 pm | |
| Ken Paulsen | Mar 12, 2009 3:37 pm | |
| Tim Quinn | Mar 12, 2009 3:39 pm | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 12, 2009 3:39 pm | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 12, 2009 3:44 pm | |
| Lloyd Chambers | Mar 12, 2009 3:48 pm | |
| Jerome Dochez | Mar 12, 2009 3:51 pm | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 12, 2009 3:51 pm | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 12, 2009 4:00 pm | |
| Dixie Pine | Mar 12, 2009 5:03 pm | |
| Jerome Dochez | Mar 12, 2009 9:25 pm | |
| Tim Quinn | Mar 12, 2009 9:48 pm | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 13, 2009 11:04 am | |
| Jerome Dochez | Mar 15, 2009 9:23 pm | |
| Sahoo | Mar 16, 2009 7:36 am | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 16, 2009 10:07 am | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 16, 2009 11:19 am | |
| Tim Quinn | Mar 17, 2009 8:52 am | |
| Kedar Mhaswade | Mar 17, 2009 11:08 am |
| Subject: | Re: Handling commands missing from a given distribution ... | |
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| From: | Tim Quinn (Timo...@Sun.COM) | |
| Date: | Mar 12, 2009 3:39:10 pm | |
| List: | net.java.dev.glassfish.admin | |
Kedar,
This seems like a very nice usability enhancement.
One possible frustration awaits users... If the system is smart enough to tell me (as the user) what *I* should do to obtain the missing piece, why doesn't it just ask me if I want *it* to do it for me?
EJB support is not currently installed. Would you like to download and install it now? [y/n]
I remember with not much fondness a product I used back in the '80s called TDMS from Digital (both long gone!). It had a definition language in which the word "request" figured prominently. I remember with great disgust that, encountering the misspelling "reqeust" (I was a frequent offender) its diagnostic error would complain something like
Found "reqeust." Did you mean "request?"
Infuriating.
- Tim
Lloyd Chambers wrote:
It would be a nice touch.
But what is the likelihood of using a command for something that is not installed on the server (perhaps intentionally)...isn't that putting the cart before the horse?
Lloyd
On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Kedar Mhaswade wrote:
Soliciting inputs from all of you regarding this interesting problem I am seeing with modular nature of the server.
The inspiration is drawn from Ubuntu. On my Ubuntu machine, when I say "svn", it says:
The program 'svn' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install *subversion*
Thus, it knows the "intent" of the user and helps him/her to get there.
Wouldn't it be nice to have something similar for asadmin especially since we are in a diverse environments of distributions like web profile, full Java EE 6 profile, cluster-aware installation/domain, or just a domain that's missing certain "capabilities" that might be available in update center? e.g. you do
asadmin migrate-timers ... on a domain/installation that has no EJB support and it comes back and says:
EJB support is currently not installed. You can install it by typing pkg install glassfish-v3-ejb (or whatever that is).
I am tempted to add this as a requirement in CLI spec. What are your thoughts? If we decide to do this, we need a lot of co-ordination across teams to do this.
Thank you, Kedar
Lloyd Chambers lloy...@sun.com GlassFish Team