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| Stefan Marr | May 9, 2011 12:33 pm | |
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| Mike Willbanks | May 9, 2011 8:42 pm | |
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| Drak | May 9, 2011 9:09 pm | |
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| Lester Caine | May 10, 2011 9:10 am | |
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| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 11:28 am | |
| Matthew Weier O'Phinney | May 10, 2011 12:27 pm | |
| dukeofgaming | May 10, 2011 12:28 pm | |
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| Drak | May 10, 2011 12:36 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 12:40 pm | |
| Ferenc Kovacs | May 10, 2011 12:41 pm | |
| dukeofgaming | May 10, 2011 12:44 pm | |
| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 10, 2011 12:44 pm | |
| Drak | May 10, 2011 12:49 pm | |
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| Lester Caine | May 10, 2011 2:32 pm | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 3:03 pm | |
| guil...@gmail.com | May 10, 2011 3:27 pm | |
| Johannes Schlüter | May 10, 2011 5:01 pm | |
| Johannes Schlüter | May 10, 2011 5:15 pm | |
| Lester Caine | May 10, 2011 10:41 pm | |
| Lars Schultz | May 10, 2011 11:34 pm | |
| dukeofgaming | May 10, 2011 11:49 pm | |
| Lars Schultz | May 11, 2011 12:02 am | |
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| dukeofgaming | May 11, 2011 1:11 am | |
| Lars Schultz | May 11, 2011 1:25 am | |
| dukeofgaming | May 11, 2011 1:39 am | |
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| dukeofgaming | May 11, 2011 2:04 am | |
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| Rasmus Lerdorf | May 11, 2011 2:30 am | |
| Johannes Schlüter | May 11, 2011 2:44 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: [PHP-DEV] annotations again | |
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| From: | Matthew Weier O'Phinney (weie...@php.net) | |
| Date: | May 10, 2011 8:57:03 am | |
| List: | net.php.lists.internals | |
On 2011-05-10, Drak <dr...@zikula.org> wrote:
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On 10 May 2011 09:27, Mike Willbanks <pen...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would argue that the introduction of this into the core is adding more feature bloat into the language that is not quite needed at this point.
Annotations cannot be considered bloat because are being used increasingly everywhere that is a clear indication that they are required as part of the PHP core as much as many of the Spl classes. It should be clear by now that the PHP community really do want annotations.
Can you back this up, please?
Just because developers are using annotations does not necessarily mean we need a new syntax.
At this stage, if someone has done the work to make this happen, the discussion really should be more about polishing that contribution and making sure it provides a robust solution to this feature than trying to postpone or find reasons to put this off.
I've gone on record as stating that annotations within docblocks are sufficient, and would rather see native support for parsing docblocks for annotations than introducing a new syntax. Others have stated the same. I'd like to see why a new syntax is considered "necessary", and why native support for docblock annotations is not considered a reasonable path.
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