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| i go bananas | Oct 24, 2011 12:54 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 24, 2011 12:59 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 24, 2011 1:15 am | |
| Charles Goyard | Oct 24, 2011 1:37 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 24, 2011 2:54 am | |
| Jeppi Jeppi | Oct 24, 2011 3:16 am | |
| Quim Llimona | Oct 24, 2011 3:28 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 24, 2011 3:33 am | |
| João Pais | Oct 24, 2011 4:15 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 24, 2011 6:37 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 24, 2011 6:51 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 24, 2011 6:58 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 24, 2011 7:05 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 24, 2011 7:26 am | |
| Marvin Humphrey | Oct 24, 2011 7:45 am | |
| João Pais | Oct 24, 2011 8:19 am | |
| Bill Gribble | Oct 24, 2011 8:49 am | |
| Max | Oct 24, 2011 9:44 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 24, 2011 9:55 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 24, 2011 10:32 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 24, 2011 11:33 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 24, 2011 12:27 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 24, 2011 12:46 pm | |
| Lorenzo Sutton | Oct 25, 2011 12:35 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 25, 2011 1:35 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 25, 2011 2:17 am | |
| Max | Oct 25, 2011 3:18 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 25, 2011 3:20 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 25, 2011 4:46 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 25, 2011 5:17 am | |
| Julian Brooks | Oct 25, 2011 7:06 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 7:10 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 7:15 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 7:31 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 7:49 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 7:57 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 25, 2011 10:10 am | |
| Max | Oct 25, 2011 10:25 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 25, 2011 10:29 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 25, 2011 10:44 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 25, 2011 11:08 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 11:31 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 25, 2011 12:38 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 25, 2011 12:44 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 12:47 pm | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 25, 2011 2:02 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 2:08 pm | |
| Simon Wise | Oct 25, 2011 5:51 pm | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 25, 2011 6:53 pm | |
| Simon Wise | Oct 25, 2011 7:32 pm | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 25, 2011 8:27 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 9:26 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 25, 2011 9:28 pm | |
| Marvin Humphrey | Oct 25, 2011 10:20 pm | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 25, 2011 11:04 pm | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 25, 2011 11:08 pm | |
| Max | Oct 26, 2011 12:54 am | |
| Simon Wise | Oct 26, 2011 3:40 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 26, 2011 7:54 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 26, 2011 7:58 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 26, 2011 8:09 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 26, 2011 9:42 am | |
| Ricardo Fabbri | Oct 26, 2011 12:03 pm | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 26, 2011 12:22 pm | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 26, 2011 1:48 pm | |
| Simon Wise | Oct 26, 2011 6:26 pm | |
| Simon Wise | Oct 26, 2011 6:34 pm | |
| Roman Haefeli | Oct 27, 2011 1:04 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 27, 2011 1:52 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 27, 2011 2:39 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 27, 2011 3:00 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 27, 2011 3:17 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 27, 2011 7:15 am | |
| Pierre Massat | Oct 27, 2011 7:26 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 27, 2011 8:01 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 30, 2011 12:52 am | |
| Rick | Oct 30, 2011 3:57 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 30, 2011 8:42 am | |
| Georg Bosch | Oct 30, 2011 2:39 pm | |
| Andy Farnell | Oct 30, 2011 4:22 pm | |
| i go bananas | Oct 31, 2011 7:49 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Oct 31, 2011 7:55 am | |
| Hans-Christoph Steiner | Oct 31, 2011 7:58 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 31, 2011 8:04 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 31, 2011 8:20 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Oct 31, 2011 8:31 am | |
| i go bananas | Oct 31, 2011 8:37 am | |
| Olivier B | Nov 2, 2011 5:01 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Nov 2, 2011 7:03 am | |
| Olivier B | Nov 3, 2011 4:49 pm | |
| i go bananas | Nov 4, 2011 12:28 am | |
| Olivier B | Nov 4, 2011 1:29 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Nov 4, 2011 7:16 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Nov 4, 2011 8:29 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Nov 4, 2011 8:39 am | |
| Jonathan Wilkes | Nov 4, 2011 8:51 am | |
| Mathieu Bouchard | Nov 4, 2011 9:32 am | |
| Andy Farnell | Nov 4, 2011 1:19 pm | |
| Subject: | Re: [PD] expr alternative | |
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| From: | Simon Wise (simo...@gmail.com) | |
| Date: | Oct 25, 2011 7:32:20 pm | |
| List: | at.iem.pd-list | |
On 26/10/11 09:53, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
It's worse than that-- they want to lock their customers into using their
hardware
only in the ways they intend. Ever tried syncing an Ipad with a free software
operating system?
indeed it is, but I was trying to focus on the open source issue as relates to
code.
Their corporate strategy regarding creating and maintaining a monopoly on as many technologies as they can, and taking a percentage of every transaction within those monopoly platforms is very sensible and reasonable way to maximise profits if you have the resources and embrace free market principles.
Most economists and all free market advocates assume this is as a good thing, and the best way to run a society. Obviously I personally disagree very strongly with this assertion, and so do many others. But the current "western" model of society says this behaviour is not only legal, but is admirable - a best practice example of successful marketing and a very profitable business model.
It is all bullshit, but many many voters disagree with me on this.
Simon
Free software devs spend an inordinate amount of time getting free software
operating systems to work with hardware for which the manufacture gives very
little documentation or support whatsoever-- not to mention hardware like
Apple's
which gets periodic firmware updates specifically to break compatibility with
anything other than Itunes. So it's not even really about refusing to give back
to the
community-- it's about making the device less useful by arbitrarily limiting
what the
user can do with it. I can't think of a better polar opposite for pure data.
-Jonathan
This is quite a common attitude, and I assume the reason a lot of companies prefer BSD code. But I believe that the reason Linux is as strong as it is is exactly because of its license ... any corporation (or any individual) that wishes to use Linux legally and distribute their version must do their part and publish their improvements.
Simon
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