atom feed40 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-archRe: nvi maintainer?
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Brian F. FeldmanJul 11, 2001 10:17 am 
Subject:Re: nvi maintainer?
From:Matt Dillon (dil@earth.backplane.com)
Date:Jul 10, 2001 4:19:45 pm
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-arch

:On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 04:06:40PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: :> I'm sorry Dave, : :"David" please. :-) : :> but it's a matter of opinion. :.. :> but that's doesn't :> mean my statement is backwards any more then yours is. : :Exactly! :-) I was hoping people would get that idea and stop arging on :the issue of split screen and undo. 40% of us feel nvi gets it wrong, :another 40% feel vim gets it wrong, and the other 20% have never used :multiple windows in any flavor of vi. : :-- :-- David (obr@FreeBSD.org)

Well, ah, David, that simply argues for the status-quo, yes? Perhaps the correct solution is to introduce a PREFER_VIM make.conf variable so when you install the port (or buildworld if we incorporated vim's sources into contrib), you get vi hardlinked to vim instead of nvi.

I've personally used at least four different vi's, possibly five or six. Linuxized, nvi, vim, the original vi (CSRG era), and one or two other knockoffs. nvi is closest to the original in terms of avoiding finger foulups. The rest do all sorts of weird things. The Linuxized vi uses the alternative terminal screen switch that drives me absolutely nuts, vim turns simple finger foulups into disasters and creates working files in the wrong place, and the other knockoffs skip many of the shortcuts the original vi had, like d/, G, etc etc etc. Yuch, Ich, Bleh, sputter.

-Matt

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