7 messages in edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacomspecimens examined lists, again
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Robin PanzaAug 3, 1995 9:24 am 
Peter RauchAug 3, 1995 9:43 am 
Bruce NeillAug 4, 1995 4:06 pm 
Lynn KimseyAug 6, 1995 10:37 am 
Peter RauchAug 6, 1995 11:10 am 
Julian HumphriesAug 7, 1995 9:21 am 
Bruce NeillAug 7, 1995 12:42 pm 
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Subject:specimens examined lists, againActions...
From:Bruce Neill (bne@LCLARK.EDU)
Date:Aug 7, 1995 12:42:54 pm
List:edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacom

At 10:37 8/6/95, Lynn Kimsey wrote:

Somehow biologists always behave as if their problems, in this case tracking specimens, lots of specimens or whatever, are somehow unique. Has it ever occurred to any of you that industry has not only managed but mastered how to track anything from individual widgets to warehouses of stuff. As a result, if you look outside the biological community you may be suprised to find that these problems have already been solved in simple easy to implement ways, usually with software and hardware available off the shelf (so to speak).

I suspect that most people (not only biologists) and indeed non-humans with the appropriate neural abilities, in most situations tend to think of themselves as unique.

The same could be said of any kind of database needs. It is sheer arrogance to assume that somehow our problems are unqiue and that only we can solve them. I might add that an enormous amount of federal funds have been wasted because of this attitude.

In this particular case, I do think that the inventory of biological diversity is a little larger than most widget-manufacturers are faced with. Most industrial institutions do not have the diversity that biological collections are faced with. A second problem is that of long time intervals. I have recently been tracking down (with a great degree of success...not easily gotten, but success nonetheless) specimens that were curated in the the 1820s in Europe. I would dare say that few industries borrow things from other corportations that were manufactured and stored 175 years ago.

No, we are not unique in our database problems, but I think it a litlle simplistic to assume that the corner software store has the answer to creating a system of storing items and information regarding those items that are not static in their location.

Cheers,

Lynn S. Kimsey Bohart Museum of Entomology Department of Entomology University of California Davis, CA 95616 USA lskimsey at ucdavis.edu