37 messages in org.kde.kde-core-develRe: Global Shortcuts
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Michael JansenMar 16, 2008 7:49 pm 
Aaron J. SeigoMar 16, 2008 9:26 pm 
Andreas PakulatMar 17, 2008 2:09 am 
David FaureMar 17, 2008 2:31 am 
Andreas HartmetzMar 17, 2008 5:21 am 
Andreas HartmetzMar 17, 2008 5:29 am 
Anders LundMar 17, 2008 6:37 am 
Michael JansenMar 17, 2008 10:44 am 
Michael JansenMar 17, 2008 10:46 am 
Thiago MacieiraMar 17, 2008 11:03 am 
Andreas PakulatMar 17, 2008 11:04 am 
Eike HeinMar 17, 2008 11:19 am 
Anders LundMar 17, 2008 11:30 am 
Anders LundMar 17, 2008 11:33 am 
Andras MantiaMar 17, 2008 11:45 am 
Michael JansenMar 17, 2008 11:54 am 
Andreas PakulatMar 17, 2008 11:59 am 
Michael JansenMar 17, 2008 12:15 pm 
Michael JansenMar 17, 2008 12:16 pm 
Anders LundMar 17, 2008 12:18 pm 
Andreas PakulatMar 17, 2008 12:33 pm 
Michael JansenMar 17, 2008 12:44 pm 
Anders LundMar 17, 2008 12:58 pm 
Andreas PakulatMar 17, 2008 2:01 pm 
Thiago MacieiraMar 17, 2008 2:02 pm 
Andreas PakulatMar 17, 2008 2:02 pm 
Thiago MacieiraMar 17, 2008 2:04 pm 
Anders LundMar 17, 2008 2:39 pm 
Olivier GoffartMar 17, 2008 3:28 pm 
Andreas HartmetzMar 18, 2008 1:50 am 
Andreas HartmetzMar 18, 2008 1:54 am 
Andreas HartmetzMar 18, 2008 1:59 am 
Michael JansenMar 18, 2008 2:49 am 
Sven BurmeisterMar 18, 2008 7:48 am 
Alex MerryMar 18, 2008 9:15 am 
Christoph CullmannMar 18, 2008 12:44 pm 
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Subject:Re: Global ShortcutsActions...
From:Thiago Macieira (thi@kde.org)
Date:Mar 17, 2008 11:03:41 am
List:org.kde.kde-core-devel

On Monday 17 March 2008 18:46:36 Michael Jansen wrote:

Am Montag 17 März 2008 05:26:27 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:

On Sunday 16 March 2008, Michael Jansen wrote:

4. I start a application. It happens that it has a global shortcut conflicting with that of another active application. Warn me. Give me the option to disable global shortcuts for one of the application temporarily, persistent or go to the global shortcut editor.

this is the one part of the proposal that makes sense to me.

the rest of it would mean the user ends up having to configure everything and there are no default actions, which means a lot more work the user if they even know it's possible.

Yep. But if they don't know a application has the need or possibility for global shortcuts, do you think it's better to just activate them? How is the user supposed to notice that?

Either argument is missing the discoverability of shortcuts.

Normally, people discover shortcuts by looking at menus and seeing the combination next to the action. For instance, in this KMail Composer window, in the Message menu, there's "Send message Ctrl+Enter".

Global shortcuts should be no different: they should show up in the menus. But, of course, only when they are enabled. So I'd say that enabling them by default -- *reasonable* defaults -- is the best way to discover them.