61 messages in org.oasis-open.lists.docbook-appsRe: DOCBOOK-APPS: About FO (was db2la...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Peter Toft | Jul 20, 2001 2:52 pm | |
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| Subject: | Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: About FO (was db2latex) | |
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| From: | Sebastian Rahtz (seba...@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk) | |
| Date: | Jul 24, 2001 6:28:20 am | |
| List: | org.oasis-open.lists.docbook-apps | |
Jeffrey Franks writes:
XML/XSL and SGML/DSSSL landscape looks pretty bleak for FO and PDF from a newbie's viewpoint. I thought this stuff was ready to use without pain.
depends what you call "without pain"! some people find these systems more than adequate, and easy to set up. others find them either inadequate, or hard to set up.
I've rendered in HTML without customization just to close the loop on my markup (and give me confidence process is doing something right). Do I need to do the same with PDF (just to make sure that the process works)?
yes, see what happens. maybe you'll be perfectly happy
Do you ever find you need to "tweak" the original XML markup to get an acceptable PDF result? Hopefully, answer is "no" since "yes" violates separation between content and style even if style is stretched to mean processing environment.
Personally, I sometimes
- edit text to make it fit better - insert processing-instructions, eg to force a page-break - hack the stylesheets in some way - very occasionally, say "to hell with this", format the text elsewhere and import as a graphic
I doubt if other people could answer an honest "no" to your question
Sebastian