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| Andrew Savory | Oct 4, 2005 3:13 am | |
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| hepabolu | Oct 4, 2005 4:00 am | |
| Joerg Heinicke | Oct 4, 2005 4:39 am | |
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| Daniel Fagerstrom | Oct 4, 2005 5:48 am | |
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| Sylvain Wallez | Oct 12, 2005 1:34 am | |
| Carsten Ziegeler | Oct 12, 2005 2:21 am | |
| Daniel Fagerstrom | Oct 12, 2005 4:52 am | |
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| Vadim Gritsenko | Oct 12, 2005 2:47 pm | |
| Daniel Fagerstrom | Oct 13, 2005 2:41 am | |
| Reinhard Poetz | Oct 13, 2005 3:25 am | |
| Vadim Gritsenko | Oct 13, 2005 8:07 am | |
| Ralph Goers | Oct 13, 2005 9:14 am | |
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| Ralph Goers | Oct 13, 2005 9:44 am | |
| Daniel Fagerstrom | Oct 13, 2005 9:56 am | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | Oct 13, 2005 10:01 am | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | Oct 13, 2005 10:05 am | |
| Daniel Fagerstrom | Oct 13, 2005 1:59 pm | |
| Joerg Heinicke | Oct 13, 2005 2:03 pm | |
| Joerg Heinicke | Oct 13, 2005 2:05 pm | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | Oct 13, 2005 3:25 pm | |
| Reinhard Poetz | Oct 13, 2005 10:57 pm | |
| Daniel Fagerstrom | Oct 14, 2005 2:05 am | |
| Vadim Gritsenko | Oct 14, 2005 6:01 am | |
| Vadim Gritsenko | Oct 14, 2005 6:06 am | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | Oct 14, 2005 11:34 am | |
| Vadim Gritsenko | Oct 14, 2005 11:45 am | |
| Reinhard Poetz | Oct 15, 2005 1:38 am | |
| Joerg Heinicke | Oct 15, 2005 1:40 am | |
| Joerg Heinicke | Oct 15, 2005 1:45 am | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | Oct 15, 2005 8:53 am | |
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| Peter Hunsberger | Oct 21, 2005 10:12 pm | |
| Stefano Mazzocchi | Oct 23, 2005 10:39 am | |
| Peter Hunsberger | Oct 24, 2005 8:05 am | |
| Subject: | Re: [RT] Is Cocoon Obsolete? | |
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| From: | Joerg Heinicke (joer...@gmx.de) | |
| Date: | Oct 13, 2005 2:03:09 pm | |
| List: | org.apache.cocoon.dev | |
On 12.10.2005 13:52, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
But even then you realize that accessing the natural functionality (and power) of Cocoon is often very difficult, because there is no obvious API and no function library to access the core functionality.
BTW, this is the most negative issue with Cocoon at least one person has (I don't mean myself and I don't want to speak in his name, so leave him anonymous): Cocoon does not really provide an API you can program to. Take even such a simple task as accessing session/request/etc.
Agree about the lack of well defined API. Both in the sense that we don't mark what is supposed to externally reusable and reasonable stable interfaces. And in the sense that we have had feature creep in our core interfaces as Berin showed for Processor.
+1
For session, request etc I think we should migrate to the servlet apis as I wrote in an other message. Having own interfaces in this area doesn't make that much sense anymore.
I can't follow your reasoning. We have an abstraction of the environment. Why do you want to give it up?
Jörg