76 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-stableRe: after the release ... | From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 19, 1998 3:57 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 19, 1998 4:15 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 1:49 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 1:52 am | |
| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 20, 1998 5:51 am | |
| ni...@iii.co.uk | Mar 20, 1998 6:17 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 7:47 am | |
| Mike Smith | Mar 20, 1998 8:02 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 20, 1998 8:22 am | |
| Mike Smith | Mar 20, 1998 8:51 am | |
| Brian Beattie | Mar 20, 1998 8:54 am | |
| Ted Spradley | Mar 20, 1998 9:23 am | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 9:40 am | |
| A. Karl Heller | Mar 20, 1998 10:04 am | |
| Matthew D. Fuller | Mar 20, 1998 10:31 am | |
| Greg Shenaut | Mar 20, 1998 11:00 am | |
| Brian Beattie | Mar 20, 1998 12:45 pm | |
| Ted Spradley | Mar 20, 1998 1:08 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 20, 1998 1:10 pm | |
| Matthew D. Fuller | Mar 20, 1998 1:18 pm | |
| melanie b | Mar 20, 1998 1:55 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Mar 20, 1998 2:27 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 20, 1998 2:30 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 20, 1998 2:41 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 20, 1998 2:47 pm | |
| Ted Spradley | Mar 20, 1998 3:02 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 20, 1998 3:12 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Mar 20, 1998 3:13 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 3:17 pm | |
| Chris Faehl | Mar 20, 1998 3:47 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 20, 1998 3:59 pm | |
| Chad R. Larson | Mar 20, 1998 4:38 pm | |
| Robert Watson | Mar 20, 1998 5:36 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 5:44 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 5:52 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 20, 1998 5:58 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 20, 1998 6:22 pm | |
| Robert Watson | Mar 20, 1998 6:33 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 20, 1998 6:50 pm | |
| Evan Champion | Mar 20, 1998 7:02 pm | |
| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 20, 1998 10:25 pm | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 20, 1998 11:48 pm | |
| Nate Williams | Mar 21, 1998 3:44 am | |
| Nate Williams | Mar 21, 1998 3:45 am | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 21, 1998 6:47 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 21, 1998 10:28 am | |
| allen campbell | Mar 21, 1998 12:39 pm | |
| Travis Mikalson | Mar 21, 1998 12:56 pm | |
| Matt Behrens | Mar 21, 1998 2:34 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Mar 21, 1998 5:16 pm | |
| Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended software support | Mar 21, 1998 8:33 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 12:38 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 22, 1998 7:38 am | |
| Robert Watson | Mar 22, 1998 9:24 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 10:12 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 12:23 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Mar 22, 1998 2:45 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 22, 1998 4:16 pm | |
| Daniel O'Connor | Mar 22, 1998 4:30 pm | |
| Daniel O'Connor | Mar 22, 1998 5:00 pm | |
| Daniel O'Callaghan | Mar 22, 1998 10:34 pm | |
| Greg Shenaut | Mar 22, 1998 10:56 pm | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 7:00 am | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 7:17 am | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 23, 1998 9:20 am | |
| David Wolfskill | Mar 23, 1998 9:51 am | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 11:41 am | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 23, 1998 12:46 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 23, 1998 12:51 pm | |
| Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC | Mar 23, 1998 2:09 pm | |
| Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group | Mar 23, 1998 2:35 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 23, 1998 2:36 pm | |
| Daniel O'Connor | Mar 23, 1998 8:43 pm | |
| Derek Flowers | Mar 23, 1998 9:08 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Mar 24, 1998 7:58 am | |
| Wes Peters | Mar 24, 1998 9:55 pm |
| Subject: | Re: after the release ... | |
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| From: | Ted Spradley (tsp...@set.spradley.tmi.net) | |
| Date: | Mar 20, 1998 9:23:32 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-stable | |
I neither a CVS expert nor directing FreeBSD release policy. I'm only pointing out a failure in the FreeBSD release cycle, as Jordan pointed out HP and Sun have bugs, but THEY have a packaged patch process. FreeBSD does not, it only has "upgrade to the next release" or hand patch any fixes into the source and rebuild.
I take exception to the word 'hand' here. You really ought to try to learn a bit about make and cvs. IMHO, those are two of the most useful things a computer can do (but they're not graphical, not even interactive, so they're completely out of fashion (don't *start*, Ted)). And they're not just for programmers.
Adding such a patch function seems to be an issue of packaging a limited number of critical changes (in 2.2.5 for example, it would have been the lpd and the security fixes) into a package. Under System V, it would be pkgadd. Under FreeBSD the best method seems to be ports.
I presume you mean a *binary* patch here. What's the big advantage of binary
over source? You don't have to pay extra for the compiler. I suppose the
binary patch would run faster, but the computer does the work, not you, so why
do you care? The source patch is more likely to get it right, and if it
doesn't, you've got a tiny chance to fix it.
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