|Hans A. Aanesen||Nov 3, 2003 12:27 am|
|Farrukh Najmi||Nov 3, 2003 4:49 am|
|Hans A. Aanesen||Nov 3, 2003 5:12 am|
|Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS||Nov 3, 2003 5:13 am|
|Farrukh Najmi||Nov 3, 2003 6:11 am|
|Farrukh Najmi||Nov 3, 2003 6:32 am|
|David RR Webber||Nov 3, 2003 10:42 am|
|Farrukh Najmi||Nov 3, 2003 10:55 am|
|Subject:||Re: [egov] BCM and eprXML pilots|
|From:||Farrukh Najmi (Farr...@Sun.COM)|
|Date:||Nov 3, 2003 6:32:13 am|
Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS wrote:
This seemed to be a recurring theme during our F2F last week. I envisioned a Registry/Repository a utility for programmer's use, not a broker for end users.
I cannot recall whether you were present on Thursday afternoon when I presented ebXML Registry and Repository (ebReg).
In that brief presentation I described how an ebXML Registry is not just for design time but is playing several different roles for benefit of end-users and run-time.
I started by using the following analogy:
"ebReg is to web services what relational databases were to enterprise applications"
If we ask the question: Are relational databases needed by enterprise applications only at run time?
Of course we come to the conclusion that the answer is: NO
ebXML Registry may have started with the idea of being a place to manage CPP/A, BPSS, UBL schemas etc. but it was designed as a general purpose Content Management solution.
I lead an open source project that implements ebReg: http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net
Out of some 100+ users of our ebReg implementation, no more that 5 use it at design time. All the remainder use it at run time and for use by actual end users. Here are some examples:
A group of major financial institutions such as IMF, World Bank, Swiss Banks etc. use ebXML Registry to manage third world debt statistics. A live registry may be seen at:
A provider of clinical software uses an ebXML Registry to manage and serve medical guidelines and protocols. The end users are doctors and nurses.
------ NIST in the US Government operates an ebXML Registry to manage HL7 Conformance templates. It is used by the HL7 user community.
The above examples are just a few I could think of to show that ebXML Registry is not just for design time and in fact is much more useful at run-time.
If this issue continues to recur then I suggest that we schedule a discussion in this in a subsequent TC con call so we can reach a common understanding on this important issue.
-- Respectfully, Farrukh
r/ John Weiland
-----Original Message----- From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farr...@Sun.COM] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:53 AM To: Hans A. Aanesen Cc: bc...@lists.oasis-open.org; eg...@lists.oasis-open.org; Knut Lindelien Subject: Re: [egov] BCM and eprXML pilots
Hans A. Aanesen wrote:
Thank you for a very fruitful conference.(Specially our workshop)
It is obvious that eprXML will be a very nice "face" for BCM in Governmental organized services in e-Gov SOA. Special interesting is the broader audience in the e-Gov TC and that they need a more governmental and not vendor controlled guidance.
One important topic here is the needed "single sign-on" PKI solutions based on a national repository (UDDI?)
Why do you pre-suppose UDDI here Hans?
Were you aware that UDDI *DOES NOT* provide a repository at all?
I would think that ebXML Registry would be a much better fit for a standards-based national registry/repository. It *DOES* provide a feature rich repository.
I would be glad to explore this further with the team if needed. Thanks.