| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| 48 earlier messages | ||
| Søren Schmidt | Dec 4, 1997 6:00 am | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Dec 4, 1997 6:04 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 6:06 am | |
| John Kelly | Dec 4, 1997 6:14 am | |
| Stephen Roome | Dec 4, 1997 6:34 am | |
| John Kelly | Dec 4, 1997 8:10 am | |
| Kevin Day | Dec 4, 1997 8:31 am | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 9:31 am | |
| Karl Denninger | Dec 4, 1997 9:32 am | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 4, 1997 10:39 am | |
| Steve Passe | Dec 4, 1997 11:10 am | |
| Steve Passe | Dec 4, 1997 11:13 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 11:27 am | |
| John-Mark Gurney | Dec 4, 1997 11:42 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 12:11 pm | |
| Jonathan M. Bresler | Dec 4, 1997 12:36 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 1:48 pm | |
| Karl Denninger | Dec 4, 1997 3:07 pm | |
| John Kelly | Dec 4, 1997 3:16 pm | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 4, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Bob Bishop | Dec 4, 1997 4:16 pm | |
| Eivind Eklund | Dec 4, 1997 5:20 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 4, 1997 5:21 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 6:04 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Dec 4, 1997 7:22 pm | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 4, 1997 7:28 pm | |
| Mark Mayo | Dec 4, 1997 8:46 pm | |
| Mark Mayo | Dec 4, 1997 8:59 pm | |
| Steve Passe | Dec 4, 1997 9:01 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Dec 4, 1997 9:24 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 4, 1997 9:52 pm | |
| Shawn Ramsey | Dec 4, 1997 10:33 pm | |
| Greg Lehey | Dec 4, 1997 10:35 pm | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 4, 1997 10:49 pm | |
| Bruce Evans | Dec 4, 1997 11:46 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 5, 1997 1:32 am | |
| Søren Schmidt | Dec 5, 1997 1:39 am | |
| Ari Suutari | Dec 5, 1997 2:37 am | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 5, 1997 3:37 am | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Dec 5, 1997 4:21 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 5, 1997 12:03 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 5, 1997 12:05 pm | |
| Jim Bryant | Dec 5, 1997 1:19 pm | |
| Julian Elischer | Dec 5, 1997 2:03 pm | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Dec 5, 1997 2:37 pm | |
| Mike Smith | Dec 5, 1997 6:39 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 5, 1997 7:03 pm | |
| Chuck Robey | Dec 5, 1997 8:36 pm | |
| Shawn Ramsey | Dec 5, 1997 9:22 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Dec 5, 1997 10:38 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Dec 5, 1997 10:41 pm | |
| John S. Dyson | Dec 5, 1997 11:04 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 5, 1997 11:52 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 6, 1997 12:09 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Dec 6, 1997 1:54 am | |
| Satoshi Asami | Dec 6, 1997 3:34 am | |
| Brian Somers | Dec 6, 1997 6:34 am | |
| Gianmarco Giovannelli | Dec 6, 1997 8:31 am | |
| Amancio Hasty | Dec 6, 1997 11:28 am | |
| Louis A. Mamakos | Dec 6, 1997 12:04 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:01 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:10 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:12 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:15 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 6, 1997 2:22 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 6, 1997 2:55 pm | |
| Tim Vanderhoek | Dec 6, 1997 3:40 pm | |
| John S. Dyson | Dec 6, 1997 3:56 pm | |
| John S. Dyson | Dec 6, 1997 4:03 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Dec 6, 1997 4:24 pm | |
| Greg Lehey | Dec 7, 1997 12:59 am | |
| Narvi | Dec 7, 1997 2:20 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 12:15 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 12:49 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 12:52 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Dec 7, 1997 1:17 pm | |
| Brian Behlendorf | Dec 7, 1997 1:56 pm | |
| Gary Kline | Dec 7, 1997 5:51 pm | |
| Ari Suutari | Dec 7, 1997 11:21 pm | |
| Brian Somers | Dec 9, 1997 6:17 pm | |
| Subject: | Re: 3.0 -release ? | |
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| From: | Warner Losh (im...@village.org) | |
| Date: | Dec 5, 1997 10:38:53 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-current | |
In message <1694...@time.cdrom.com> "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: : Again, it "would be nice", I'm not disputing that, I'm simply saying : that if we don't keep our goalset small, at least for the first couple : of iterations of this, then we won't get it done for any of the *BSDs : (including FreeBSD).
And the number of niggling, little problems that are in the ports when you try to use them quickly convince you that having one ports tree is a logistical nightmare. the openbsd folks sent me a bunch of patches back when 2.2.5 was jelling, so i couldn't commit them to the freebsd tree. to make matters worse, freebsd has libcrypt, while openbsd doesn't. and then there was libgmp. freebsd compresses man pages, while openbsd does. the list is very long and adds up to make most ports not work w/o tweaking on openbsd. in the end, to get working ports they had to get their own ports tree. lots of little things added up to a huge problem.
i guess this is a long way of saying that i agree with jordan. expanding the scope of ports from just current/stable freebsd does come at a huge price that isn't obvious at first blush. the devil is in the details for sure. it is much harder than you'd otherwise think.
Warner





