[Google-Base-API] Re: Definitive Answer on Expiration - Marcos Oliva - com.googlegroups.google-base-data-api

10 messages in com.googlegroups.google-base-data-api[Google-Base-API] Re: Definitive Answ...

From	Sent On	Attachments
N Owens	10 Jun 2008 18:09
Eric (Google)	10 Jun 2008 21:12
Nick Owens	11 Jun 2008 14:59
Marcos Oliva	11 Jun 2008 15:19
Nick Owens	11 Jun 2008 19:12
Marcos Oliva	11 Jun 2008 19:32
Celebird	11 Jun 2008 23:41
Celebird	11 Jun 2008 23:43
Nick Owens	12 Jun 2008 07:38
Celebird	12 Jun 2008 11:46

Subject:	[Google-Base-API] Re: Definitive Answer on Expiration
From:	Marcos Oliva (marc...@gmail.com)
Date:	06/11/2008 03:19:12 PM
List:	com.googlegroups.google-base-data-api

Eric

In a way I do understand what you are saying and I am going through a similar situation with MLS real state listings expired periods and keeping them active, I am doing exactly as you are doing

But I do not see this as an annoyance (and no I do not own google stock at all) tera bytes of data are being sent to google base

why would you want to keep a listing over 30 days ? even with cars listings ? even with home listings ?

this opens more stream revenue on your situation where you can charge on added fee to keep those listings active after 30 days, I am for one will do it .

B2B integration, well I have been doing integrations also, from using WebMethods (OMG), SeeBeyond products, etc, I have seen worst management decisions when it comes to time lines and expiration modules on enterprises across the board, specially in HealtCare HL7 and X12 HIPPA compliance

This is just a business annoyance, hopefully google will have better documentation on how to implement this and their gotchas so a proper planning can be done here

just my opinion Eric,

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Nick Owens <nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

Eric:

This is unimaginable. It's like taking B2B integrations back to elementary school!

I just scheduled a statement to "touch" my listings every 30 days if they're still active so that an update gets sent over automatically. I have the ability to auto-run SQL statements in my admin panel but for others who do not have this luxury, this may present a challenge.

I hate having to run this statement b/c it means a history record will get written every 30 days next to my listings letting users know that their listing was fed successfully to Google Base. They'll also get an email and a message in their admin letting them know that the update to Google Base was successful. For this single integration, I'll have to explain to my users that Google requires listings to be auto-re-sent each 30 days in order to remain active. Doesn't that sound like an annoyance from a lot of angles?

I've been doing B2B integrations for 10 years and I've never seen some of these incredulous decisions. And I thought I had seen it all in my years...

-----Original Message----- From: Goog...@googlegroups.com [mailto:Goog...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric (Google) Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:13 AM To: Google Base Data API Subject: [Google-Base-API] Re: Definitive Answer on Expiration

The expiration date depends on the item type: http://base.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=30013

These item types do not expire: * News and Articles * Recipes * Reference Articles * Reviews

Eric

On Jun 10, 6:09 pm, N Owens <nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

Does anyone have a definitive answer on expiration dates? I've submitted two items to Base through the API and never submitted the expiration date attribute in any of my files. The idea of an expiration doesn't really apply in my situation so I would never do it. In my admin, one of the items (type = vehicles) shows an expiration date of July 10, 2008 and the other one (type = boats) states "Item does not expire". I find it strange that the sample XML format w/o this node could result in this but maybe vehicles have a default expiration and boats do not? It could make sense as some boats can take months or years to sell, versus the much shorter life cycle of the average auto. It seems strange though.

I've read contradicting messages about this. In the Base admin, there is language which indicates all items expire after 30 days. I've read in some documentation that you can leave this value unspecified in your feed to post an item until it sells w/o an expiration. ANy ideas?