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55 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-currentRe: entropy reseeding is totally broken| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Андрей Чернов | Oct 19, 2000 9:48 pm | |
| Udo Schweigert | Oct 19, 2000 10:57 pm | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 19, 2000 11:39 pm | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 19, 2000 11:51 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Oct 20, 2000 1:18 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 20, 2000 9:27 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 20, 2000 9:43 am | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 20, 2000 10:06 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 20, 2000 1:13 pm | |
| Warner Losh | Oct 24, 2000 11:15 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Oct 25, 2000 3:35 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 25, 2000 3:50 am | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 25, 2000 10:37 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 25, 2000 11:12 am | |
| Wesley Morgan | Oct 25, 2000 2:15 pm | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 25, 2000 3:12 pm | |
| John W. De Boskey | Oct 25, 2000 4:20 pm | |
| Wesley Morgan | Oct 25, 2000 4:50 pm | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 25, 2000 5:01 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Oct 25, 2000 9:28 pm | |
| Ed Hall | Oct 26, 2000 12:30 am | |
| David O'Brien | Oct 26, 2000 12:50 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 26, 2000 1:47 am | |
| Kris Kennaway | Oct 26, 2000 2:17 am | |
| Kris Kennaway | Oct 26, 2000 2:21 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 26, 2000 2:54 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 26, 2000 3:01 am | |
| Rod Taylor | Oct 26, 2000 3:30 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 26, 2000 3:34 am | |
| Jordan Hubbard | Oct 26, 2000 5:20 am | |
| John W. De Boskey | Oct 26, 2000 6:24 am | |
| Matt Dillon | Oct 26, 2000 9:55 am | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 26, 2000 10:06 am | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 26, 2000 10:17 am | |
| John Baldwin | Oct 26, 2000 11:06 am | |
| Андрей Чернов | Oct 26, 2000 11:36 am | |
| Terry Lambert | Oct 26, 2000 12:04 pm | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 26, 2000 12:39 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Oct 26, 2000 12:49 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Oct 26, 2000 1:26 pm | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 26, 2000 1:29 pm | |
| Matt Dillon | Oct 26, 2000 1:47 pm | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 26, 2000 2:02 pm | |
| Ed Hall | Oct 26, 2000 2:03 pm | |
| Matt Dillon | Oct 26, 2000 2:25 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Oct 26, 2000 2:44 pm | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Oct 26, 2000 2:51 pm | |
| Wesley Morgan | Oct 26, 2000 3:07 pm | |
| David O'Brien | Oct 26, 2000 3:15 pm | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Oct 26, 2000 3:18 pm | |
| Jim Bryant | Oct 26, 2000 3:29 pm | |
| Mark Murray | Oct 26, 2000 3:56 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Oct 26, 2000 9:00 pm | |
| Terry Lambert | Oct 27, 2000 5:19 pm | |
| Doug Barton | Oct 27, 2000 7:18 pm |
| Subject: | Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken | |
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| From: | Kris Kennaway (kr...@citusc.usc.edu) | |
| Date: | Oct 26, 2000 2:21:00 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-current | |
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 02:50:29PM +0400, Andrej Cernov wrote:
It is because /dev/random totally ignore _time_ and not reseed from it, but no other randomness source available at boot time.
We should probably be using the time since boot as ONE thing we seed with, but it only provides maybe 3-4 bits of randomness - meaning if thats all you seed with then your attacker has to brute-force 3-4 bits of state to break the PRNG state as it was at boot time, hardly a difficult challenge :-)
Kris
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