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| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 11:01 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 11:07 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 11:11 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 11:16 pm | |
| Sergei S. Laskavy | Jul 29, 1997 12:13 am | |
| John-David Childs | Jul 29, 1997 2:09 am | |
| Narvi | Jul 29, 1997 2:48 am | |
| Stephen D. Spencer | Jul 29, 1997 3:43 am | |
| Robert Watson | Jul 29, 1997 5:32 am | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 29, 1997 5:49 am | |
| Robert Watson | Jul 29, 1997 6:39 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 29, 1997 7:19 am | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Jul 29, 1997 8:58 am | |
| Warner Losh | Jul 29, 1997 9:25 am | |
| Warner Losh | Jul 29, 1997 9:34 am | |
| Christopher Petrilli | Jul 29, 1997 9:52 am | |
| Jim Shankland | Jul 29, 1997 9:57 am | |
| John Dowdal | Jul 29, 1997 10:50 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 29, 1997 12:05 pm | |
| Bill Pechter | Jul 29, 1997 12:29 pm | |
| Matthew Hunt | Jul 29, 1997 12:37 pm | |
| Christopher Petrilli | Jul 29, 1997 12:43 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 29, 1997 1:07 pm | |
| Garrett Wollman | Jul 29, 1997 1:07 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 29, 1997 1:14 pm | |
| sth...@nethelp.no | Jul 29, 1997 1:39 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 29, 1997 2:23 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 2:45 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 2:57 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:02 pm | |
| sth...@nethelp.no | Jul 29, 1997 3:30 pm | |
| Rocco Lucia | Jul 29, 1997 3:33 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Aaron Bornstein | Jul 29, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:54 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 4:00 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 5:29 pm | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 29, 1997 6:06 pm | |
| Gary Schrock | Jul 29, 1997 6:10 pm | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 29, 1997 6:11 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 29, 1997 6:54 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 7:58 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 8:10 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 29, 1997 8:25 pm | |
| Marco Molteni | Jul 30, 1997 5:04 am | |
| James Seng | Jul 30, 1997 5:31 am | |
| Alex G. Bulushev | Jul 30, 1997 5:59 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 6:45 am | |
| Robert Watson | Jul 30, 1997 7:03 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 7:48 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 7:54 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 8:06 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 8:13 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 8:28 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 8:33 am | |
| zoonie | Jul 30, 1997 9:09 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 30, 1997 9:25 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 30, 1997 9:31 am | |
| John-David Childs | Jul 30, 1997 10:17 am | |
| Ian Kallen | Jul 30, 1997 10:37 am | |
| Patrick Gilbert | Jul 30, 1997 11:43 am | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 30, 1997 1:52 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 30, 1997 2:06 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 3:53 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 4:04 pm | |
| yossman | Jul 30, 1997 4:20 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 4:24 pm | |
| Peter Korsten | Jul 30, 1997 4:43 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 30, 1997 8:01 pm | |
| Cy Schubert | Jul 30, 1997 9:10 pm | |
| FreeBSD Technical Reader | Jul 30, 1997 11:18 pm | |
| Marco Molteni | Jul 31, 1997 5:24 am | |
| yossman | Jul 31, 1997 9:00 am | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 31, 1997 9:19 am | |
| Marc Slemko | Jul 31, 1997 11:23 am | |
| Andrew | Aug 1, 1997 10:00 pm | |
| Dmitry Kohmanyuk | Aug 1, 1997 10:32 pm | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Aug 2, 1997 1:46 pm | |
| Subject: | Re: security hole in FreeBSD | |
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| From: | Nate Williams (na...@mt.sri.com) | |
| Date: | Jul 30, 1997 7:48:51 am | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-security | |
There's a thing really I can't understand in all this thread. Nobody said: "Vince, we're sorry about what happened to you. Probably you did something stupid, but _everybody_ has to learn his lesson the hard way. Here you are a a checklist of books, programs and ideas to follow to improve the security of your site."
No, everybody started to flame at him! Why? Because he choosed as his subject line: "security hole in FreeBSD" instead of "I'm a sucker please you security wizards help me" ?
Ahh, but you assume that we haven't ever seen Vinny before. Unfortunately, his behavior is 'typical', in that he wants us to do all his research and work for him, rather than him spending the time to do his own work. He also shows a complete lack of interest in finding out solutions to his own problems.
I've dealt with him too many times over the last 2 years to have anything but pity on any company he works for, since he will require hand-holding and doesn't do anything on his own.
Nate





