| From | Sent On | Attachments |
|---|---|---|
| Donald Ramsbottom | Sep 20, 2000 11:55 pm | |
| Richard Clayton | Sep 21, 2000 6:40 am | |
| Richard Watts | Sep 21, 2000 8:16 am | |
| Neil Dunbar | Sep 21, 2000 9:28 am | |
| Owen Blacker | Sep 21, 2000 10:46 am | |
| Donald Ramsbottom | Sep 21, 2000 11:10 am | |
| John Young | Sep 21, 2000 11:29 am | |
| John Young | Sep 21, 2000 11:41 am | |
| Richard Clayton | Sep 21, 2000 1:25 pm | |
| Richard Clayton | Sep 21, 2000 1:30 pm | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 21, 2000 2:12 pm | |
| Donald Ramsbottom | Sep 22, 2000 12:52 am | |
| Paul Leyland | Sep 22, 2000 1:30 am | |
| Owen Blacker | Sep 22, 2000 2:09 am | |
| Roland Perry | Sep 22, 2000 2:20 am | |
| Roland Perry | Sep 22, 2000 2:25 am | |
| Jon Ribbens | Sep 22, 2000 3:45 am | |
| David Howe | Sep 22, 2000 3:56 am | |
| Charles Lindsey | Sep 22, 2000 4:05 am | |
| David Howe | Sep 22, 2000 4:20 am | |
| Owen Blacker | Sep 22, 2000 4:55 am | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 22, 2000 5:12 am | |
| Donald Ramsbottom | Sep 22, 2000 5:24 am | |
| Donald Ramsbottom | Sep 22, 2000 8:32 am | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 22, 2000 11:22 am | |
| Donald Ramsbottom | Sep 23, 2000 7:35 am | |
| Owen Blacker | Sep 23, 2000 8:24 am | |
| Dave Howe | Sep 23, 2000 3:25 pm | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 23, 2000 4:26 pm | |
| Dave Howe | Sep 23, 2000 4:38 pm | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 24, 2000 6:00 am | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 24, 2000 6:00 am | |
| Paul Crowley | Sep 24, 2000 11:07 am | |
| Richard Watts | Sep 25, 2000 3:53 am | |
| Charles Lindsey | Sep 25, 2000 7:09 am | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 25, 2000 10:40 am | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 25, 2000 1:13 pm | |
| Philip Rowlands | Sep 25, 2000 2:04 pm | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 25, 2000 7:35 pm | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 25, 2000 11:04 pm | |
| Charles Lindsey | Sep 26, 2000 1:59 am | |
| Pete Chown | Sep 26, 2000 2:38 am | |
| Richard Watts | Sep 26, 2000 9:40 am | |
| Richard Watts | Sep 26, 2000 9:45 am | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 26, 2000 11:42 am | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 26, 2000 12:26 pm | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 27, 2000 3:01 am | |
| David Swarbrick | Sep 27, 2000 3:01 am | |
| Jon Ribbens | Sep 27, 2000 3:46 am | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 27, 2000 7:52 am | |
| Dave Bird | Sep 27, 2000 11:53 am | |
| Benjamin Geer | Sep 27, 2000 6:41 pm |
| Subject: | RE: Demon & DeCSS | |
|---|---|---|
| From: | Owen Blacker (owen...@pres.co.uk) | |
| Date: | Sep 22, 2000 2:09:59 am | |
| List: | uk.org.greenend.chiark.ukcrypto | |
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I know Demon got a raw deal in the Godfrey case, but there is no reason for them to start hassling their customers at the behest of the MPAA. It maybe a botty covering exercise, but demon really should have taken some advice before knee jerking.
But then, Demon are well-known for having a silly legal department, as seen in the Godfrey case. Has David Swarbrick's posting access been reconnected yet ?
To be fair to Demon, their legal department's responsibility must surely be to prevent Thus plc from being sued, in any jurisdiction. They may have made (and possibly still make, as a non-subscriber to Demon, I don't know) some poor judgments in the past, but that doesn't mean that they're all out to stomp all over free expression /per se/... :o)
I wouldn't say their Legal Dept is necessarily "silly", just trying to act in the company's best interest, which is surely their contractual duty as employees of Thus plc. I may not like the fact that they threaten to pull a site after receiving somewhat dubious claims from the MPAA, but surely it's the MPAA's bad here. Demon's actions are understandable, even if perhaps not what we would like them to be. Any company's Legal dept exists in the main to cover the company's arse! :o)
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