34 messages in org.ebxml.lists.ebxml-devRE: [ebxml-dev] ebxml virtual appliance| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Ladislav Urban | Feb 26, 2007 9:44 am | |
| Monica J. Martin | Feb 26, 2007 9:58 am | |
| Bryan Rasmussen | Mar 15, 2007 4:12 am | |
| James Governor | Mar 15, 2007 4:26 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 15, 2007 4:43 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 15, 2007 5:36 am | |
| David RR Webber (XML) | Mar 15, 2007 6:46 am | |
| Matt MacKenzie | Mar 15, 2007 6:48 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 15, 2007 7:01 am | |
| Sacha Schlegel | Mar 15, 2007 7:05 am | |
| Matt MacKenzie | Mar 15, 2007 7:05 am | |
| Sacha Schlegel | Mar 15, 2007 7:12 am | |
| David RR Webber (XML) | Mar 15, 2007 8:07 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 15, 2007 8:08 am | |
| David RR Webber (XML) | Mar 15, 2007 8:13 am | |
| Matt MacKenzie | Mar 15, 2007 8:14 am | |
| Matt MacKenzie | Mar 15, 2007 8:15 am | |
| David RR Webber (XML) | Mar 15, 2007 8:26 am | |
| Sacha Schlegel | Mar 15, 2007 8:33 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 15, 2007 8:38 am | |
| Matt MacKenzie | Mar 15, 2007 8:39 am | |
| Matt MacKenzie | Mar 15, 2007 8:42 am | |
| Arnie Shore | Mar 15, 2007 8:42 am | |
| James Governor | Mar 15, 2007 8:47 am | |
| Matt MacKenzie | Mar 15, 2007 8:48 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 15, 2007 8:58 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 15, 2007 9:30 am | |
| Bryan Rasmussen | Mar 19, 2007 2:30 am | |
| Roger Bass | Mar 19, 2007 11:20 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 19, 2007 12:27 pm | |
| Roger Bass | Mar 19, 2007 12:37 pm | |
| step...@systml.co.uk | Mar 19, 2007 12:44 pm | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 21, 2007 8:44 am | |
| Stephen Green | Mar 21, 2007 8:46 am |
| Subject: | RE: [ebxml-dev] ebxml virtual appliance | |
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| From: | Matt MacKenzie (mat...@adobe.com) | |
| Date: | Mar 15, 2007 8:42:23 am | |
| List: | org.ebxml.lists.ebxml-dev | |
Sacha,
I think most users care that their service works more than if OASIS ratified the transport protocol...and if there is one thing I've learned during my career as a standards architect, small business owner selling ebXML components and big company engineering manager/architect is that at the end of the day, the USER's needs are what I need to care about above all -- even above my philosophy on the use and proliferation of standards.
-matt
-----Original Message----- From: Sacha Schlegel [mailto:sac...@schlegel.li] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:34 AM To: Matt MacKenzie Cc: Stephen Green; ebxm...@lists.ebxml.org Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] ebxml virtual appliance
Matt
The main problem with Skype is their proprietary protocol ... at least for those who care about open standards and open protocols
Sacha
Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2007, 08:15 -0700 schrieb Matt MacKenzie:
Except SIP traversing NAT is a crapshoot...
Notice how Skype gets through your corp. firewall but Gizmo only does sometimes?
-matt
-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Green [mailto:step...@bristol.gov.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:09 AM To: ebxm...@lists.ebxml.org Subject: RE: [ebxml-dev] ebxml virtual appliance
Apologies, I must of been thinking of something else.
Anyone know of uses of ebXML with IM (eg SIP)? Sounds promising.
All the best
Steve
Sacha Schlegel <sac...@schlegel.li> 15/03/07 14:13:03 >>>
Hi Steve
Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2007, 14:01 +0000 schrieb Stephen Green:
Or speaking very niaively (not fully geekified yet): How is it I can just use GoogleTalk in a browser pointing at their website (even before I knew I had it, for that matter, folk started talking to me using the IM) but for ebXML it needs all sorts of serverside stuff and lots of technical knowhow even to install, let alone use. Mind you I note Sacha once IM'd me using ebXML and I wouldn't have known it was ebXML he used if he hadn't told me.
Sorry I cannot follow you here ... I do not remember having IM'd you via some ebXML tool ... I like the idea but must have been something else.
Sacha
Can folk not just make ebXML work like fairly basic IM? Even using IM to make it P2P like GoogleTalk?
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