atom feed130 messages in edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacomRe: [Taxacom] validation of taxon names
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Subject:Re: [Taxacom] validation of taxon names
From:Paul van Rijckevorsel (dipt@freeler.nl)
Date:Feb 20, 2012 3:07:22 am
List:edu.ku.nhm.mailman.taxacom

From: "Richard Pyle" <deep@bishopmuseum.org> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:32 AM

in other words: "valid" in botany means "available" in zoology "valid" in zoology means "correct" in botany

*** Not even close. It should be fairly safe to say: * a "validly published name" in botany is an "available name" in zoology * a "valid name" in zoology is a "correct name" in botany

I would say Stephen was certainly "close"; if not spot-on.

*** Yeah, sure Zoology's "this work is available" can be translated into botany's "this work is valid" and zoology's "this typification is available" can be translated into botany's "this typification is valid" and zoology's "this choice is valid" can be translated into botany's "this choice is correct" and botany's "this is the correct spelling" can be translated into zoology's "this is the valid spelling".

You could try, but although there is a fair chance that you would not be misunderstood, any editor worth his salt would reach for his red pencil (shaking his head at this clumsiness). * * *

but there is a considerable uncertainty as I cannot quite make out what an "available name" is in the zoological Code.

It's *almost* the same as a "validly published" in the botanical sense, but there are reasons other than invalid publication that may render a zoological name unavailable.

*** The big question in my mind is whether a specific name (or a subspecific name) can be an available name. It appears possible to argue this both ways, depending what part of the zoological Code one uses. I remain unsure (except that thinking about it gives me a headache).

Paul

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