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55 messages in net.sourceforge.lists.courier-usersRe: [courier-users] rfc2047/2045 viol...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Subject: | Re: [courier-users] rfc2047/2045 violations | Actions... |
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| From: | Steve Underwood (ste...@coppice.org) | |
| Date: | Jan 17, 2001 7:39:59 am | |
| List: | net.sourceforge.lists.courier-users | |
John Edward Miller wrote:
You can only comment out lines from 539 to 556 in submit2.c, because author doesn't accept any complaints regarding his RFC policy. It's also useful to change default value for is8bit variable from 0 to 1 in line 521.
Y'know, it's fascinating.
I agree in principle with his rationale for this, the problem is that we do not have control over what produces the mail that hits the server.
In particular, going through three days' worth of server log data (since I cut my own mail account over to the Courier server) I find that no messages sent from individual mailers are being bounced, but I'm seeing many bounces from messages sent from mailing lists.
Including, interestingly, some from this list that apparently didn't get through.
As I can't control what content users submit to Majordomo and Mailman lists I subscribe to, I think I'll probably be looking at submit2.c.
John.
As has been commented before, this hard policy is futile. It simply discourages people from using Courier. A more aggressive and purposeful approach would be to follow RFC guidelines - be conservative in what you send, and tolerant in what you accept. Massage and accept crap wherever possible, and send a big fat clearly worded mail back to the originator, telling them their e-mail client is a piece of garbage no sane individual should be using. Then they might start to realise they are using garbage. Right now they just think Courier doesn't work properly. High minded rejection of mail just annoys the recipient, who is powerless to remedy the situation. Has Sam ever suggested what he finds unacceptable about such a scheme? I know I am not the first to suggest it here.
Regards, Steve