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11 messages in org.apache.legal-discussRe: Creative Commons Attribution License| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| sebb | May 28, 2008 7:34 am | |
| Henri Yandell | May 28, 2008 8:34 am | |
| Craig L Russell | May 28, 2008 1:37 pm | |
| Sam Ruby | May 28, 2008 5:08 pm | |
| Henri Yandell | May 28, 2008 5:44 pm | |
| Gilles Scokart | May 29, 2008 12:15 am | |
| Henri Yandell | May 29, 2008 12:46 am | |
| Stefano Bagnara | May 29, 2008 12:58 am | |
| sebb | Jun 1, 2008 9:32 am | |
| Henri Yandell | Jun 13, 2008 2:37 am | |
| Henri Yandell | Jun 15, 2008 5:32 pm |

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| Subject: | Re: Creative Commons Attribution License | Actions... |
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| From: | Sam Ruby (rub...@intertwingly.net) | |
| Date: | May 28, 2008 5:08:10 pm | |
| List: | org.apache.legal-discuss | |
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Craig L Russell <Crai...@sun.com> wrote:
I don't have any problem with depending on a CC licensed artifact, but I'm troubled by the notion that an artifact would be installed into a Maven repository by "not the author".
I, on the other hand, have zero problems with that.
The very purpose of creating an open source or creative commons license is to remove the very need to obtain permission for a select set of uses. In fact I have personally heard Joi Ito (current CEO of Creative Commons) argue very eloquently AGAINST the idea that people should either seek, or grant, permissions to works that are already licensed under a creative commons license. He cites the Chicago Manual of Style:
"The act of seeking permission establishes that the author feels permission is needed, and the tacit admission may be damaging to the author's cause."
Think about it. You write open source code. An individual, a group, or a company is free to pick up that code and distribute it to his/her/their users. In general, do they need to seek your permission before they do so? No.
Would it be possible for you to contact the owner and ask if they would publish it to a Maven repo themselves?
I am confident that I have written code that exists in a Maven repository that I haven't put there. And while I may be the original author of that code, I am not the "owner".
Craig
On May 28, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
I think that specific CC license should be fine and should be added to our list of "Akin to Apache" at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
Any -1s from the Legal PMC?
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:34 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to add JCIP annotations to some Java projects.
The JCIP jar is available under the:
Creative Commons Attribution License - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5
This does not seem to be mentioned anywhere on the current 3rd party page draft (apart from a passing reference to icons).
As far as I can tell, the JCIP annotations jar is only needed at compile time, however users would not be able to rebuild without it, so it's not an optional dependency.
Also if the jar is not included in the project distribution, it would need to be installed in a Maven repository - which seems to me to be akin to distribution...
Can we use JCIP in projects and add it to Maven repos?
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