atom feed90 messages in org.xml.lists.xml-devRe: [xml-dev] Pragmatic namespaces
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Subject:Re: [xml-dev] Pragmatic namespaces
From:'Liam Quin' (li@w3.org)
Date:Aug 5, 2009 4:50:18 pm
List:org.xml.lists.xml-dev

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 12:45:09AM +0100, Michael Kay wrote:

also, it can't easily be made compatible with things like ch.cern.html (later org.ietf.html, and then org.w3.html, of course, and also ch.iso.html...)

That's not fair.

Hey! Why do I have to be fair? :-)

The current namespace scheme can't handle variants of a vocabulary at all well,

No, it doesn't, although at least you don't have to change element names if a namespace URI changes.

I'm very much in favour of improving namespaces. Tim's suggested approach might mean that existing namespace mechanisms in XSLT, Xpath, XQuery, etc etc., could be largely ignored by programmers & users, except at least for already-existing content, and for that maybe some sort of API change might be sufficient.

So far I don't think I've seen a single clear all-round winner in terms of suggested improvements, but indeed something new doesn't have to improve in all ways.

Liam

-- Liam Quin, W3C XML Activity Lead, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/ * http://www.fromoldbooks.org/

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