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Subject:Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions
From:Phil Stone (pkst@ucdavis.edu)
Date:Feb 10, 2009 9:30:17 am
List:at.iem.pd-list

Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Messages don't have anything comparable to the canvas' $0.

I missed this the first time it went by, and I think it's central to (my) confusion about this...

Messages don't have anything comparable to the canvas' $0, but *message boxes do*! Why, therefore, is $0 not valid in a message box (as a way of embedding the canvas-identifier into a message), and further, why are people going so far as to suggest new, orthogonal meanings for $0 in a message box? Please, don't do this; it would only make the situation much more confusing!

Arrgh!

Phil

A possible alternative use for $0 in messages would be the selector ("list", "symbol", ...) as that is the thing before $1, but implementing that could be even more confusing to beginners.

Why would that be confusing to beginners?

Because it's not the $0 from object boxes.

Ciao