| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| 103 earlier messages | ||
| Nate Williams | Jul 28, 1997 9:09 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 9:12 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 9:15 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 9:19 pm | |
| Heikki Suonsivu | Jul 28, 1997 9:33 pm | |
| Jan Koum | Jul 28, 1997 9:39 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 9:49 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 10:05 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:14 pm | |
| Gary Palmer | Jul 28, 1997 10:27 pm | |
| Gary Palmer | Jul 28, 1997 10:28 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:35 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:37 pm | |
| John-David Childs | Jul 28, 1997 10:38 pm | |
| Gary Palmer | Jul 28, 1997 10:40 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:44 pm | |
| Gary Palmer | Jul 28, 1997 10:50 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 10:55 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 10:59 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 28, 1997 11:01 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 11:07 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 11:11 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 28, 1997 11:16 pm | |
| Sergei S. Laskavy | Jul 29, 1997 12:13 am | |
| John-David Childs | Jul 29, 1997 2:09 am | |
| Narvi | Jul 29, 1997 2:48 am | |
| Stephen D. Spencer | Jul 29, 1997 3:43 am | |
| Robert Watson | Jul 29, 1997 5:32 am | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 29, 1997 5:49 am | |
| Robert Watson | Jul 29, 1997 6:39 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 29, 1997 7:19 am | |
| Rodney W. Grimes | Jul 29, 1997 8:58 am | |
| Warner Losh | Jul 29, 1997 9:25 am | |
| Warner Losh | Jul 29, 1997 9:34 am | |
| Christopher Petrilli | Jul 29, 1997 9:52 am | |
| Jim Shankland | Jul 29, 1997 9:57 am | |
| John Dowdal | Jul 29, 1997 10:50 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 29, 1997 12:05 pm | |
| Bill Pechter | Jul 29, 1997 12:29 pm | |
| Matthew Hunt | Jul 29, 1997 12:37 pm | |
| Christopher Petrilli | Jul 29, 1997 12:43 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 29, 1997 1:07 pm | |
| Garrett Wollman | Jul 29, 1997 1:07 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 29, 1997 1:14 pm | |
| sth...@nethelp.no | Jul 29, 1997 1:39 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 29, 1997 2:23 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 2:45 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 2:57 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:02 pm | |
| sth...@nethelp.no | Jul 29, 1997 3:30 pm | |
| Rocco Lucia | Jul 29, 1997 3:33 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Aaron Bornstein | Jul 29, 1997 3:44 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 3:54 pm | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 29, 1997 4:00 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 5:29 pm | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 29, 1997 6:06 pm | |
| Gary Schrock | Jul 29, 1997 6:10 pm | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 29, 1997 6:11 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 29, 1997 6:54 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 7:58 pm | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 29, 1997 8:10 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 29, 1997 8:25 pm | |
| Marco Molteni | Jul 30, 1997 5:04 am | |
| James Seng | Jul 30, 1997 5:31 am | |
| Alex G. Bulushev | Jul 30, 1997 5:59 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 6:45 am | |
| Robert Watson | Jul 30, 1997 7:03 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 7:48 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 7:54 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 8:06 am | |
| Nate Williams | Jul 30, 1997 8:13 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 8:28 am | |
| Vincent Poy | Jul 30, 1997 8:33 am | |
| zoonie | Jul 30, 1997 9:09 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 30, 1997 9:25 am | |
| Poul-Henning Kamp | Jul 30, 1997 9:31 am | |
| John-David Childs | Jul 30, 1997 10:17 am | |
| Ian Kallen | Jul 30, 1997 10:37 am | |
| Patrick Gilbert | Jul 30, 1997 11:43 am | |
| Jay D. Nelson | Jul 30, 1997 1:52 pm | |
| [Mario1-] | Jul 30, 1997 2:06 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 3:53 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 4:04 pm | |
| yossman | Jul 30, 1997 4:20 pm | |
| Jordan K. Hubbard | Jul 30, 1997 4:24 pm | |
| Peter Korsten | Jul 30, 1997 4:43 pm | |
| Michael Smith | Jul 30, 1997 8:01 pm | |
| Cy Schubert | Jul 30, 1997 9:10 pm | |
| FreeBSD Technical Reader | Jul 30, 1997 11:18 pm | |
| Marco Molteni | Jul 31, 1997 5:24 am | |
| yossman | Jul 31, 1997 9:00 am | |
| Adam Shostack | Jul 31, 1997 9:19 am | |
| Marc Slemko | Jul 31, 1997 11:23 am | |
| Andrew | Aug 1, 1997 10:00 pm | |
| Dmitry Kohmanyuk | Aug 1, 1997 10:32 pm | |
| Philippe Regnauld | Aug 2, 1997 1:46 pm | |
| Subject: | Re: securelevel (was: Re: security hole in FreeBSD) | |
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| From: | sth...@nethelp.no (sth...@nethelp.no) | |
| Date: | Jul 29, 1997 3:30:03 pm | |
| List: | org.freebsd.freebsd-security | |
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I was considering installing ssh but there is only one problem. I use Win95 from my own side at times for various reasons as well as the other remote admins. So a ssh client does cost money. We're volunteers and are not getting paid in any shape or form.
The ssh client for Windows is $99. Educational sites are eligible for a 50% discount. Or you could run the FreeBSD version - for free.
It sounds like you're saying that the extra hassle you and your fellow system administrators (and your users) are having because of the breakin is worth less that $99. Are you sure you have your priorities straight?
(For comparison - I run ssh for practically *all* remote logins, even on the same LAN. ssh won't solve all your security problems, but it can be an important *part* of better security.)
With respect to passwords, your goal should be that no password is sent in the clear. Ever. This is difficult to reach, but you'll find it helps you to focus on security quite a bit.
Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no





