atom feed53 messages in org.freebsd.freebsd-currentRe: Download of FreeBSD 3.0-SNAP
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Subject:Re: Download of FreeBSD 3.0-SNAP
From:Mike Smith (mi@smith.net.au)
Date:Sep 16, 1998 12:23:58 am
List:org.freebsd.freebsd-current

In message <1998@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes:

Without knowing the true geometry of the disk (which I assume EIDE doesn't allow), we can't optimize for the cylinder patterns anyway, so I suppose it's a moot issue. I suppose that by manually specifying the geometry at format time then it could be slightly optimized for those hdd's that come with true geometry. Was that taken out because the computation was outweighing the seek time benefits, or what?

Disk geometry is nonlinear, and the calculations involved in optimising for it are complex and not really compatible with the optimisations for this sort of thing already part of the filesystem.

... Which have been disabled since 2.0.5 or something, we're now running on a pseudo geometry which fails horribly on huge disks.

It's better than what we'd have otherwise.

According to Kirk, 16 to 32 is the right number of cylinder groups, all over 50 is waste. we can end up with 200+ cgs on modern disks :-(

Yay, even less locality of reference. You were paying attention to the thread on inode allocation policies that went past just recently?

There's no such thing as "true geometry" anymore.

Well, there is, but we'd like to avoid having to deal with it.

Gawd, and the pedants out from the voodvork came.

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