20 messages in org.xml.lists.xml-devRe: [xml-dev] MarkMail: now archiving...
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Jason HunterNov 26, 2007 11:55 am 
Costello, Roger L.Nov 26, 2007 1:32 pm 
Len BullardNov 26, 2007 5:07 pm 
bryan rasmussenNov 27, 2007 12:59 am 
Elliotte HaroldNov 27, 2007 4:51 am 
Elliotte Rusty HaroldNov 27, 2007 5:00 am 
Len BullardNov 27, 2007 5:56 am 
Jason HunterNov 27, 2007 11:05 am 
Jason HunterNov 27, 2007 12:46 pm 
Elliotte Rusty HaroldNov 27, 2007 6:52 pm 
Edward C. ZimmermannNov 27, 2007 11:41 pm 
Jason HunterNov 28, 2007 12:48 am 
Andrew WelchNov 28, 2007 2:21 am 
Edward C. ZimmermannNov 28, 2007 3:45 am 
John SnelsonNov 28, 2007 4:51 am 
Jason HunterNov 28, 2007 11:34 am 
Edward C. ZimmermannNov 28, 2007 1:12 pm 
Jason HunterNov 28, 2007 3:09 pm 
Elliotte Rusty HaroldDec 7, 2007 4:39 am 
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Subject:Re: [xml-dev] MarkMail: now archiving xml-devActions...
From:Elliotte Rusty Harold (elh@metalab.unc.edu)
Date:Nov 27, 2007 6:52:35 pm
List:org.xml.lists.xml-dev

Jason Hunter wrote:

I think the reason you *don't* see that is the inherent risk of letting someone else run arbitrary code on your server. What if the user starts calculating Pi to 1,000,000,000 digits?

Perhaps we shouldn't have made XQuery Turing complete? (Side note: I'm pretty sure XQuery is Turing complete. Has anyone proved it yet?)

What if they start consuming disk or thrashing the disk IO? When you query against hundreds of gigs of content, you don't have to be malicious to mess things up.

Check out Ning some time. I have. Very cool stuff. Their backend is actually Oracle and Lucene, though from our perspective it seems like a native XML database would be a much better fit. However the ability to let people run code on their servers is a pretty important part of their value add.

Or for a less constrained appraoch, try Amazon EC2. Run any code you like on their servers.

Yes, it's challenging; but I suspect there's a real business model in there somewhere. :-)

-- Elliotte Rusty Harold elh@metalab.unc.edu Java I/O 2nd Edition Just Published! http://www.cafeaulait.org/books/javaio2/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0596527500/ref=nosim/cafeaulaitA/

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